holloway

I will be keeping a keen eye out for the skeet gun good luck with the sale .

you know your going to regret it !

weight of this gun is 7lb 8 oz.

you have a pm.

There you go 👍

👍 Tedious old farts 😂

28 inch barrels 3 chokes supplied,14 1/4 inch lop.very tidy ,surplus to requirements.£250 .ono.pick up only .Devon message me if interested.

Thank you for posting that ,all common knowledge to the educated but ………..

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Is it me or are those pellets all different sizes ?

Fair enough 👍

Konor please understand it is not in the hands of Basc or myself and it is not my argument it is just the way these things are looked at in todays world and the way things will eventually pan out ……my view for what its worth in the ideal world would mirror yours almost exactly, to me its a good common sense view which seems reasonable to us . I haven't thrown the towel in, but i am a realist i use steel or Bismuth for all my shooting from 410 to vintage guns but in my opinion only really possible by home loading and having no involvement with big bag shooting ,its a pain and i would rather buy shop bought cartridges but for me accepting that i cant get the ammunition to use all of my guns would be throwing the towel in. There is a much bigger picture than Bascs involvement .

Konor in todays world correctly or incorrectly the precautionary principle rules ,as anybody who has had to deal with Natural England shooting consents know .The authorities who ever they happen to be at the time will restrict ban or regulate if you cannot prove that no harm is being done ,this is the way things are being sorted today ,and with the best will in the world scattering what looks to be hundreds of thousands of tons of Lead shot over the countryside is going to be very tricky to say no harm is being done i will go further and say it will be impossible. Authorities do not need any evidence of harm they need evidence of no harm. With or without Basc this is what is happening in this country they cant stop it ,at least only by using there own evidence based data might they have any chance of doing so ,i have searched the internet for answers and data myself and am satisfied that there is a problem with lead shot ingestion there has been 50 years worth of worldwide research, all of your questions have answers that can be found on the internet if you want to you will find them. What will eventually happen is that with no firm evidence to prove that Lead shot is not harming wildlife etc it will be banned, Basc or yourself have no say in this without evidence to prove otherwise. Not saying any of this is right or wrong but it is whats happening .🙁

So 160 lbs a season if 8 shoots a season ,x 25 years comes to 1280 lbs of toxic lead shot scattered over the land,(making allowance for my awful maths ) .I would not call this a big shoot by any means but still a staggering amount of pollution by any standards. Also just to play devils advocate to all of those asking to be shown the proof of harm to wildlife by lead shot ,just do a google search yourself and you will be able to find all of the evidence you need should you choose to put in a little effort . The Americans were looking for lead shot replacement as a consequence of toxic shot restrictions over wetlands in the seventies earliest date i can find is 1966 all instigated by their research into the poisoning of waterfowl.

so using 1 1/8 loads as a good average chucking nearly 20 lbs of lead shot over the ground every shoot day .multiply that by days shooting year after year 🤔