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#1 Bigamos

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 03:05 PM

I think my next purchase is going to be a rifle....

But what is the next size up from a .22...?

Also what is the largest size round that could be used in a indoor range at 25 yards etc....?

It would only be for target shooting, and the odd rabbit etc....!

#2 garyb

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 03:06 PM

Do you mean 22 rimfire ?

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 03:08 PM

.25 if you mean airgun

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 03:27 PM

Yea rimfire...............

Sorry about that.....

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 03:31 PM

in that case its .17hmr :blush:

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 03:32 PM

Depends what you mean by "Next size up". If you mean in terms of power, you could go for a .17hmr, .22wmr etc.

A lot of ranges won't allow these to be used, however, as the velocity will be outwith their permitted maximum.

After these rimfire calibres, you're into centrefire territory.

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 03:45 PM

Depends what you mean by "Next size up". If you mean in terms of power, you could go for a .17hmr, .22wmr etc.

A lot of ranges won't allow these to be used, however, as the velocity will be outwith their permitted maximum.

After these rimfire calibres, you're into centrefire territory.


Yea I want to saty with rimfire calibres, at the moment.....

So what are the real differences between the .17 and the .22 mags etc....

Only ever shot .22 in lr and wmr.....!

I always though the .17 was a smaller and slower round....

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 03:46 PM

Every range is different and they have to be certified for the velocity not so much the calibre. Certain velocities will puncture the armour plate installed at ranges. For instance at my range I shoot .22, .38, .357 and .44 but they wont allow .17HMR because of its velocity.

Bullet sizes its .17, .22, .38 and .357 are the same just different powder charges and then .44 but as Ive said the size doesnt really matter!

I tell my Mrs that as well............... :blush:

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 03:50 PM

.22lr is what you want. Why does it need to be bigger? If you want more boom then perhaps consider a .357 or .44 but you may not be allowed that for Rabbits.

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 03:52 PM

or a 7X57 for when the pesky rabbits are armour plated :blush:

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 03:54 PM

You will probably have to go through the learning process yourself but I've gone through a variety of calibres and Ive found most of my bunny shots are at 45 to 90 yards and a .22 at that range with a half decent mod is almost silently and very accurate. It really is all you need. If you just want to try something else or are getting bunnies at 100 yards plus then a 17 HMR is a good option but is quite a lot louder. Not great if your shooting anywhere near the farmers place!

Anything over that for bunnies is massive overkill in my humble opinion. I have a Marlin lever action .357 for the range only (Cowboy rifle). Cheap, fun and a big boom! Would highly recommend that if its a big calibre 25 yard fun gun you want!

Edited by ellebarto, 10 September 2010 - 03:56 PM.


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Posted 10 September 2010 - 05:04 PM

or a 7X57 for when the pesky rabbits are armour plated :lol:

:blush: you talk utter tosh, the 243 is more than adequate for amour plated rabbits :yes:















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Posted 10 September 2010 - 06:50 PM

Yea I want to saty with rimfire calibres, at the moment.....

So what are the real differences between the .17 and the .22 mags etc....

Only ever shot .22 in lr and wmr.....!

I always though the .17 was a smaller and slower round....


Be careful if you're thinking about an HMR for range work.Its an incredibly fast round and might exceed the muzzle velocity on some ranges.I'd check any restrictions before putting in a variation.

To put it in perspective-the HMR has almost the same muzzle energy as my Mauser and thats .30 calibre.

If allowed,why not go for a 357 lever action.

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 07:51 PM

ALL BUT A FEW THAT I MAY HAVE MISSED.

BOB

Common calibers in inch and their metric equivalents
.17 4.4 mm 0.172 in .17 Remington, .17 HMR

.177 4.5 mm .177 lead, .175 BB Airgun and BB gun .177 caliber

.20, .204 5 mm 0.204 in .204 Ruger

.22, .218, .219 .220, .221, .222, .223, .224, .225, .226 5.5, 5.56, 5.7 mm 0.223-0.224 in .22 Long Rifle, .223 Remington (5.56mm NATO), 5.7 x 28 mm, .22-250 Remington

.228 none 0.228 in .228 Ackley Magnum Bullets formerly available from Barnes, in heavily constructed 70 and 90 grain weights for medium game use

.24 6 mm 0.243 in .243 Winchester, 6 mm Remington, 6mm plastic (airsoft) BBs

.25 6.35 mm 0.25 in, 6.35 mm .25 ACP, 6.35x16mmSR a.k.a .25 Auto and 6.35 mm Browning

.257 6.5 mm 0.257 in, 6.527 mm .257 Roberts, .25-06 Remington typical 25 cal, not normally called 6.5

.26 6.5 mm 0.264 in, 6.7 mm 6.5 x 55 mm cartridges commonly known as 6.5

.27 6.8 mm, 7 mm 0.277 in, 7.035 mm .270 Winchester, 6.8 SPC not called 7 mm

.28 7 mm 0.284 in, 7.213 mm 7 mm Remington Magnum, 7 x 57 mm commonly called 7 mm

.30 7.62 mm 0.308 in 30-06, .308 Winchester (7.62mm NATO) American ".30 caliber"

.30 7.62 mm 0.311 in .303 British, 7.62x39, 7.62x54R Other ".30 caliber"

.32, .327 7.65 mm 0.309 - 0.312 in .32 ACP, .32 S&W, .327 Federal Magnum .32 caliber handgun cartridges

.32, .325 8 mm 0.323 in .325 WSM, 8 mm Remington Magnum, 8mm plastic (airsoft) BBs .32 caliber rifle cartridges

.338 8.58 mm 0.338 in .338 Lapua, .338 Winchester Magnum .338 Rifle cartridge

.38, .380, .357, .35 9 mm 0.355-0.357 in .38 Special, .380 ACP, .357 Magnum, .35 Remington, 9 mm Luger, 9x18mm Makarov Generally .357 for revolvers and rifles, .355 in autoloaders

.38 10 mm 0.400 in .38-40 Old black powder cartridge

.40 10 mm 0.400 in .40 S&W, 10 mm Auto

.404 10.25 mm 0.423 in .404 Jeffery

.405 10.75 mm 0.411 in .405 Winchester

.408 10.4 mm 0.408 in .408 Chey Tac CheyTac Intervention

.41 10.25 mm 0.410 in .41 Magnum .41 Action Express

.416 10.6 mm 0.416 in .416 Barrett, .416 Remington Magnum, .416 Rigby, .416 Weatherby Magnum Long-range sniper rounds

.43 11 mm 0.43 in Sl .43 SL large

.44 10.8 mm 0.427 - 0.430 in .44 Magnum

.45 11.45 mm 0.451-0.452 in .45 ACP, 45GAP Handgun .45 calibers, .451 autos and .452 in revolvers

.45 11.6 mm 0.458 in .45-70 Government Most rifle .45 calibers

.454 11.53 mm 0.454 in .454 Casull Once considered a wildcat cartridge, becoming more common

.458, .46 11.6 mm 0.458 in .460 Weatherby, .458 Winchester Magnum

.475, .480 12 mm 0.475 in .480 Ruger, .475 Linebaugh

.50 12.7 mm 0.50 in .50 AE, .500 S&W, .50 Beowulf Desert Eagle, S&W X-Frame, Alexander Arms .50 Beowulf

.50 12.95 mm 0.510 in .50 BMG, 12.7 x 108 mm M2 Browning machine gun and other heavy machine guns, long range rifles typified by Barrett Firearms Manufacturing products

.68 17.5 mm 0.683-0.696 in .689 Caliber Paintball markers Typically .689 Caliber, not called 17.5mm (Not actually a firearm)

.79 20 mm 0.787 in various autocannon caliber, about the smallest caliber capable of an explosive filling

#15 njc110381

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 10:30 PM

or a 7X57 for when the pesky rabbits are armour plated :lol:



:lol: you talk utter tosh, the 243 is more than adequate for amour plated rabbits :lol:



No way! Those two calibres are mere spud guns! You need a .338 Win Mag for quarry as dangerous as armoured Rabbits. :mad:

Edited by njc110381, 11 September 2010 - 10:31 PM.


#16 Boristhedog

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 12:09 AM

On the subject of large calibres for rabbits, I was on a range with my .577 black powder 1861 Artillery Carbine (Musketoon) when a bunny wandered on next to the 150 yard targetů.. I thought about it, but decided that he might be cheeky and just catch the minie ball!

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 04:26 PM

For armour plated rabbits only one way to go, ammo is a bit pricey though :hmm:



http://en.wikipedia....laK_18/36/37/41

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 04:37 PM

for armoured rabbits i prefer a polymer lined sodium 12g slug, burns right through. :hmm:

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 02:59 PM

No way! Those two calibres are mere spud guns! You need a .338 Win Mag for quarry as dangerous as armoured Rabbits. :good:



My local club had an open day where I got the chance to fire the .338, I got 3 rounds for a fiver.

The shock wave would probably be enough to take care of the rabbit, wouldn't even need to hit it.

J




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