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#41 Hammergun

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Posted 19 October 2004 - 07:04 PM

Sorry for the late response, Jordan, but I didnt see your post.

Straight young hazel sticks from a coppiced bush are nice and springy, and you can make a point on the end so they are easy to push into the ground.

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Posted 27 November 2004 - 09:22 PM

this is my longnet. i have made it into a quickset type by tapeing the head and foot lines to the haze, it seems to work ok.
have i set it out allright?
jake

p.s this isnt all of the net i just couldnt fit it all on

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Posted 09 January 2005 - 05:21 PM

where can you get hold of long nets and how much do they cost!! :lol:

#44 longnetter

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Posted 11 January 2005 - 10:06 AM

where can you get hold of long nets and how much do they cost!! :D

there are tons of places to get them from, Deben, suffolk 0870 4422600, www.deben.com {they sell shooting stuff too!}, arthur carter, 02476 454244 sells them, so do k.p & s. nets, 01297 33920, check all their different prices first though, because they can vary quite a lot! Brian Brinded has a video out called=
'MAKING AND MAINTAINING NETS' 3 hours long and tells you how to make purse nets, longnets, etc. His agent is,

www.artvideos.com
or, their postal address is,


constable country videos,
bedside manor,
rectory hill,
east bergholt,
colchester.
C07 6th

01206 298805

Hope this is of some use to you. I love long netting, in fact I'm off out tonight in deepest Sussex, on my own because my netting partner is full of flu at the moment. My wife panics when I go alone because there have been a lot of reports around Newhaven and Seaford of the Lynx, my son in law and I saw it one night about six or seven months ago in the beam of our lamp and after that I always scan the papers and the net for any other reports! Too many people from all areas of society have reported seeing it for it to be pure speculation.I don't worry though, there are hundreds of rabbits over this farm, so I don't think it would fancy a slice of fifty seven year old meat like me, do you?. Anyway, best of luck, and give long netting a go, you'll probably love it! =Longnetter.

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Posted 11 January 2005 - 10:18 AM

Another thought just occurred to me, there are another two videos out called,
RABBITING { JUST SOME OF THE METHODS }, and, 'PROFFESIONAL RABBIT CATCHING WITH MICK MANSBRIDGE' both by Countryside audio and visual.
e-mail= countryside.av@btinternet.com
Mick is a well respected rabbit catcher and shows you how to set a variety of long nets, drop nets etc. he's a down to earth bloke who you'd willingly spend a night on the **** with, a good countryman who really knows what he's talking about!
cheers,
Longnetter.

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Posted 14 January 2005 - 10:49 AM

Tiercel,
Don't take this the wrong way mate, but I'm glad that I'm not the only re-cycled teenager who loves long netting. I too have grown so tall that I've grown through my hair line and now have a pink and shiney bit { O.K. = a lot! } sticking through! Joking apart though, long netting is fascinating and there's always something else to learn. I've just made myself a set of drop net poles out of that U.P.V.C. PIPE THAT PLUMBERS USE AS WASTE PIPE. I've stengthened the middles with timber inserts and they are now quite rigid but light to carry, and for the droppers I've used shorter lengths with rings made of strong galvanised wire. I could only get the white stuff at the time, so I painted it all black and it looks O.K. There are seven poles ready at the moment and I've set them up over at my favourite spot on a fairly local farm, they have a fifty yad long net attached and I've left it suspended there until the weekend for the rabbits to get used to passing underneath it all. I'm a bus driver in Brighton and Hove and of course I have a variety of late and early shifts with days off at funny times of the week which does give me the chance to roam about when the public are asleep. Except for, poachers, burglars, coppers, ladies of the night, taxi drivers and bus drivers of course.
I'm very lucky with this particular farm in the fact of it not having any public footpaths and the net is set up in a valley out of sight of the main road. The only bugbear is that ****** { travellers } are rife around this area and they'd steal the saddle of a nightmare if given the chance. Last year four of them tried to grab my young lurcher off me, but I managed to get into someone's driveway as if I lived there and they, luckily, left it at that! I'm fifty seven and they were all mid twenties and big, so I consider myself very, very lucky, but the 'Old Bill' didn't want to know because I never actually got hit and never got the registration of their white Trannie van! Anyway, this spot with the long net set up is rife with rabbits and I thought that as I was ferreting the farm next Sunday I would give it a go at the same time! The most I've had at any one time at this farm is seventeen { ferreting } and the most is nine for lamping, and my top score is five for long netting. Not that brilliant given the amount of rabbits over there but I'm a very happy bloke who realises how lucky I am to have so much ground at my disposal. I have five golf clubs, two farms and a private school, plus, and this is really true, a nudist colony! I only go in the winter months when the chalets are closed up and there is only the caretaker and a few hundred rabbits there. They are under the wooden chalets and dotted around the wooded areas and can by quite hard won sometimes! I'll let you know how the drop net works out,
cheers,
longnetter. :/ :D :

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Posted 18 January 2005 - 11:57 PM

how did you get on with your drop net longnetting session? i have got a 50yard tammell net i use for dropnetting. but like you say you have gotta be preety carefull where you set these.people will nick anything these days even if they dont know what its for.

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Posted 19 January 2005 - 09:25 PM

Interesting stuff about your drop nets, going right back to the early messages regarding how much bag to have in the net I'd say that most nets you buy have cords far too long for the amount of net supplied. We usually end up cutting a 100 yard net down to about 70 yards.

Another tip you might like to consider is to lay out the net on the ground in daylight, organise the net along the cords to even out the bagging then tie the net to the cords at intervals equal to where you intend putting the pegs in so that when you put the net up at night the bagging is all equal along the net. A bit of sidewind when setting up can push nylon nets all over the place. I find hemp long nets a bit bulky but always use hemp for my purse nets as I reckon they tangle far less.

Interested to see you putting the pegs in as you lay out the net, I've found that to be a bit of a palaver and usually run the net right out pegging both ends then go back to put in the pegs. Matter of preference I suppose.

I enjoy using the long nets in conjunction with ferrets, we've a rough old bit of ground to do soon with lots of patches of gorse. It's alive with rabbits so we are going to net round each clump one at a time and run a few ferrets through. Should be exciting sport

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Posted 19 January 2005 - 09:42 PM

Last year four of them tried to grab my young lurcher off me, but I managed to get into someone's driveway as if I lived there and they, luckily, left it at that! I'm fifty seven and they were all mid twenties and big, so I consider myself very, very lucky, but the 'Old Bill' didn't want to know because I never actually got hit and never got the registration of their white Trannie van!

Never, ever, ever, carry a can pepper spray to defend yourself from a number of people who may wish to obtain your cur. :oops:

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Posted 19 January 2005 - 10:49 PM

old rooster.do you find when you set your nylon nets pegging after they will become tangled with the smallest bit of rubbish.especially if your doing a end set and the wind has blown all your bag to where youve tied it to the head line usuallyall the bag is bunched up and in the middle of it you will find the smallest twig in the world. this is one of the advatages hemp has over nylon. it tends not to pick up ****.also when doing end sets i always tale the end of the nets out into the field10 yards you will be amazed how many rabbits have not become entangled because the wind has bunched all the bag up. and the rabbits run down the length of the net into the taled ends.hope you have agood day ferreting with the longnets. :oops:

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Posted 20 January 2005 - 10:15 AM

You're bang on there fert, it is one of the downsides of nylon nets and I find that both purse and longnets made of nylon tangle much easier than hemp. In honesty most of my long netting is with ferrets rather than at night so at least I can see what's going on. Make my own hemp purse nets and have done a few nylon gate nets but I hate even working with the nylon as it's a b*gger to knot IMHO.

Had one strange experience a couple of years back; had set a long net on the far side of a hedge that was quite thick. I was ferreting alone and it was there to catch any bunnies that escaped the purse nets. I sometimes tie a can on the top line with a stone in it so you can hear when a bunny hits the net, no good if it's very windy though. There's a gate through the hedge but the hedge is so thick you can't see through it. Anyway, I'd had a few from my side with nothing apparently gone out from the far side. Picked up the ferrets and all the purse nets and went round the other side to find a bunny lightly tangled in the longnet but stone dead. Never had it happen since and there were no marks on it to suggest hawk, fox or cat had been at it.

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Posted 21 January 2005 - 02:10 AM

roost you whant to try it at night most you gotta put your homework in. but it can be very rewarding at the end of it. ive got some photos on my digicam after a couple of hours netting.can anybody tell me how to forward them on to this site.im afraid when i was supposed to be at school in IT classes i was out catching dirty vermin. :oops: :lol:

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Posted 21 January 2005 - 09:47 AM

Look at the box below the text box when you are posting a reply, it says "Browse" to the right. Click on the browse button and it will let you search through your PC files for the picture files you want to post. Max 200k so if you've taken them high res. you may need to reduce them a bit. I use a software program called Paintshop Pro, you've probably got one with your camera software anyway. Mind you don't accidentally post your porn pictures here though :oops: :/ :lol:

Hope this helps, assume you've got to the bit where you can download the pics to your PC already, if not you will need a cable to connect camera to PC usually via one of the USB ports, should have come with the camera.

DOH, just looked at the forum list and theres a forum for info on uploading pics, try this:

http://forums.pigeon...?showtopic=1638

Edited by old rooster, 21 January 2005 - 09:53 AM.


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Posted 21 January 2005 - 10:06 AM

Old Rooster i noted that in your post you said.
"Interested to see you putting the pegs in as you lay out the net, I've found that to be a bit of a palaver and usually run the net right out pegging both ends then go back to put in the pegs. Matter of preference I suppose."

If you are working dirty ground which can mean almost anyplace near trees after a good blow. The ground is littered with twigs. Hemp or nylon you lay your net down on those and you will get the net dirty.

There are places that allow me to set the net the same way as you do, and you are right it is easier :oops: .

I suppose if you dont mind cleaning your net after a drop then thats the way to do it. The way i do it allows me to drop and pick up a net on dirty sets with the minimum of litter in the net. There is another disadvantage to the lay down then peg meathod in that you are walking back and fo along the net there by creating more disdubance than is really necessery. With the peg with net in hand meathod you walk accross the set once.

As with most things there is no right way or wrong way of doing things, its just as you say a matter of prefrance

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Posted 21 January 2005 - 11:40 PM

Totally agree with all you say, I'm just too inexperienced to peg as I go I expect.

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Posted 22 January 2005 - 04:09 PM

Old Rooster. What you said about tying in the slack where you place the pegs. There are two schools of thought on that. I am with the for tied in slack. I know vimm is against it.

But when i tie in the slack i tie it on the head line only, i tie at the rate of 36 meshes to 6 ft of net that gives you a net that is rigged by halfs. That is every mesh is 4" 4"x 36=144 divided 2=6 ft. So what you get then on an end set is not so many big bunches of net with smaller portions of taught net.

If you are trying to set on a quartering wind it can play hell with the slack in the net. One way i have found of combatting that is to set the net upside down. That is the top line becomes the bottom and vick verca. Then what happens is that because your foot rope then is laying on the grass and it has been tied in, that the meshes on the head rope are controled by ties on the foot rope and you dont get them running all to one end.

I have just read all this back and it seems as clear as mud to me :/ hope you can make out what im trying to say. :oops: :lol:

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Posted 22 January 2005 - 04:18 PM

reading yer load and clear

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Posted 22 January 2005 - 10:17 PM

Me too, wouldn't it be great if we could all meet up and ponder all this over a couple of beers. :oops:

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Posted 23 January 2005 - 01:21 PM

O R we can meet at the PW Arms friendly banter (the words skin of rhino brain of gnat come to mind) free beer what more could you ask for. Trouble is the beer is only that "YE OLDE CYBER ALE" :lol: . But its all right for nowt. :oops:

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Posted 24 January 2005 - 05:01 PM

Old Rooster. What you said about tying in the slack where you place the pegs. There are two schools of thought on that. I am with the for tied in slack. I know vimm is against it.

But when i tie in the slack i tie it on the head line only, i tie at the rate of 36 meshes to 6 ft of net that gives you a net that is rigged by halfs. That is every mesh is 4" 4"x 36=144 divided 2=6 ft. So what you get then on an end set is not so many big bunches of net with smaller portions of taught net.

My thoughts, for what they are worth, is that you only really need to tie at peg points as the free mesh slides easilly along between the pegs on the lines once a rabbit hits at any point. I rarely get more than one or at most two rabbits in any one section, if the nets are tied this way it gives plenty of "bag" to catch the struggling rabbit rather than letting it bounce off and escape.

I do stress that this is just a personal preference based on experimentation, if you think about it by tying just at the pegs you are not restricting the net any more than if it wasn't tied at all. You are just equalling out the amount of bag available between pegs, which is all I'm trying to achieve as we all seem to agree that nylon in particular runs along the lines and gets into all kinds of a mess with the slightest bit of wind.

Edited by old rooster, 24 January 2005 - 05:05 PM.





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