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Can't think of any reason why I would need to carry a loaded mag in my car - it can't be any longer than 30 seconds to load one up when I arrive at my permissions if the situation demanded it.

 

I'd struggle to give a decent justification if stopped with a loaded mag when on the way somewhere.

 

I recall reading that air rifle and shotgun mags were strangely subject to more stringent controls than a firearm though.

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It is classed as a loaded rifle in Law. Important for PCP air gunners particularly to remember this especially (with those fiddly little mags) as its a loaded rifle in a public place , the fact its not fitted to the gun is irrelevant

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It is classed as a loaded rifle in Law. Important for PCP air gunners particularly to remember this especially (with those fiddly little mags) as its a loaded rifle in a public place , the fact its not fitted to the gun is irrelevant

 

Please point me to the legislation that confirms your rather bold statement.

 

A loaded mag in pocket or vehicle is not illegal. I carry a loaded mag around all day long quite lawfully.

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Covered many times on here. this is just one thread.. http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/163675-loaded-mags-in-public-places/

 

to summarise: 1) the law doesn't differentiate between loaded and unloaded firearm (at least for airguns) 2) even if it did, a magazine is not a firearm 3) a magazine cannot be "loaded" (this term is defined in the 1968 act and is different to the general everyday use of having ammo/pellets in it. )

 

£10 to PW charity if anyone can conclusively show different (not "everyone knows" or "my mate says" etc) :good:

 

 

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http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/27/section/57

 

 

 

(6)For purposes of this Act—

( a )the length of the barrel of a firearm shall be measured from the muzzle to the point at which the charge is exploded on firing; and

 

( b )a shot gun or an air weapon shall be deemed to be loaded if there is ammunition in the chamber or barrel or in any magazine or other device which is in such a position that the ammunition can be fed into the chamber or barrel by the manual or automatic operation of some part of the gun or weapon.

I have never seen a gun that can extract a round from a magazine in your pocket and chamber it on it's own.

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Perfectly fine.... Have thirty of the blighted hanging off you and in you pocket in the pub.... No issues

 

Aside from the fact there's no actual need to have them hanging off you whilst in the pub. No need to show off the fact you've just been shooting. Pocket or a bag is fine for your bolt & ammo but having it on display is a potential hassle / security risk that isn't recommended.

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Aside from the fact there's no actual need to have them hanging off you whilst in the pub. No need to show off the fact you've just been shooting. Pocket or a bag is fine for your bolt & ammo but having it on display is a potential hassle / security risk that isn't recommended.

 

Bit difficult hiding the fact when your rifle is leaning up against the bar and your pearl handled sixguns are hanging from your waist !

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Can't think of any reason why I would need to carry a loaded mag in my car - it can't be any longer than 30 seconds to load one up when I arrive at my permissions if the situation demanded it.

 

I'd struggle to give a decent justification if stopped with a loaded mag when on the way somewhere.

 

I recall reading that air rifle and shotgun mags were strangely subject to more stringent controls than a firearm though.

Surely the fact that you are shooting is a decent justification for shock,horror,having bullets in a magazine in the vehicle??

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Isn't this just another one of those "if I bang my head against the wall will it hurt" threads?

 

If anyone knows of any prosecutions of a legitimate shooter carrying a loaded magazine whilst on their way to or from shooting then please post it here, otherwise I suggest perhaps we all just carry on doing what we do anyway.

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Surely the fact that you are shooting is a decent justification for shock,horror,having bullets in a magazine in the vehicle??

 

If I was stopped on my permission then yes, totally agree. If I'm at home or in the car on the way to or from then no need to have any ammo outside of its tin / box as I'm not shooting there and then. I haven't found a need to jump out of the car and start shooting just yet and it's no hardship to load and make ready when I arrive on the farm. Likewise when I finish it's easy enough to clear down and put it away.

 

Regardless of the law, it's part of my routine and works well for me. My mags also sit in my rifles when they're in the cabinet and in transport so they're not forgotten when I pull them out at ridiculous o'clock in the morning. Rather keep them with the rifle and load on site than keep them loaded and risk forgetting them.

Isn't this just another one of those "if I bang my head against the wall will it hurt" threads?

 

Christ yes, just file it with the others:

* Which is better .22 or .177?

* Can I shoot fox with a .22lr

* Is a Hatsan any good?

* I have £2,000 to spend on a shotgun, what should I buy?

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