marcus94 Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 What should I do if out pigeon shooting and someone approaches me or is watching me that does not agree in shooting ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdsallpl Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 If you haven't done so already ring the police voluntary notification and tell them where you are shooting. Then if possible completely ignore them. If they approach you, tell them the police know you're there and you are carrying legitimate crop protection. Be calm and not confrontational. If they become aggressive ring the police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus94 Posted July 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 Cheers, only ever had it twice and we ended up with armed officers out but they said we was doing nothing wrong that was three years ago tho ha. I was just asking as I go on my own a lot now so now I no what to do on this situation. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 If you haven't done so already ring the police voluntary notification and tell them where you are shooting. Then if possible completely ignore them. If they approach you, tell them the police know you're there and you are carrying legitimate crop protection. Be calm and not confrontational. If they become aggressive ring the police. Top straight forward advise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 Good advice above but if they come to talk I turn my phone on to record the conversation so they can't say you threatened them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossberg-operator Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 If You are shooting on private land, how can these people walk on it? (If it is not a public footpath). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 If you've got a phone that takes videos, it's worth discretely using it if you have any encounter with them. My iphone camera works when in my top pocket facing outwards, so not obvious I'm recording - I've not had any issues yet , but it's well worth doing in just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Edwards Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 The only anti that I came across was when I was applying for my FAC. The FEO was checking the land, and a man came out of his house to say that you shouldn't shoot on the land, because of the wildlife. The FEO informed him that only certain species can be shot, all shooters respect the environment and abide by the Countryside Code. The man then went on to say he was going to "put an appeal in", but the FEO stated that he doesn't have a leg to stand on, because he doesn't own the land, plus there isn't a facility to appeal anyway. Put in an appeal so someone isn't allowed to shoot on their own land, I don't think so! This man seemed to believe that you could stop somebody shooting on their own land, because of wildlife protection. Land, like anything else, is a possession, you can do as you please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 The FEO was checking the land, and a man came out of his house to say that you shouldn't shoot on the land, because of the wildlife. I'm intrigued to know how the chap knew the FEO visit had anything to do with shooting ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Edwards Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 I'm intrigued to know how the chap knew the FEO visit had anything to do with shooting ! The man saw the FEO having a look at the land, as his house is nearby, then came out to ask him what he was doing, so the FEO told him who he was and where he was from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Ask them why there breaking the law trespassing on private land. They can see what your doing and it's got nothing to do with them. Record it all and ask them to wee wee off. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyb79 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 I've thankfully not had to deal with this yet, but as Figgy says, my first approach would probably to ask them if they had permission to be on the land. If not, ask for name and address in order to report to the land owner for consideration of a civil trespass complaint. If they were just plain unreasonable, I'd stay calm, explain I was carrying out a legal activity and would appreciate not being obstructed in doing so. Video/sound recordings are very useful especially to avoid any complaints of '...and then he pointed a gun at me...' Nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 (edited) If You are shooting on private land, how can these people walk on it? (If it is not a public footpath). Because the Law regarding Tresspass is a nonsense. Edited July 22, 2014 by Westley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 If You are shooting on private land, how can these people walk on it? (If it is not a public footpath). Because the Law regarding Tresspass is a nonsense. It is. Its more or less been trampled to buy the townie vote of the Countryfile generation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdsallpl Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 I've thankfully not had to deal with this yet, but as Figgy says, my first approach would probably to ask them if they had permission to be on the land. If not, ask for name and address in order to report to the land owner for consideration of a civil trespass complaint. If they were just plain unreasonable, I'd stay calm, explain I was carrying out a legal activity and would appreciate not being obstructed in doing so. Video/sound recordings are very useful especially to avoid any complaints of '...and then he pointed a gun at me...' Nonsense. It is quite reasonable to approach a person who is on land which is not a public footpath. However I would not approach them unless they were likely to affect the shooting. I would leave the hide, approach them and ask in a very courteous manner if I could help them You then respond depending how they respond, if they say something pleasant, then you point them towards the nearest public path or road and leave at that. If they become aggressive then as per my post above. (post 2) Don't start talking about legal action and so forth most people know they won't get into trouble and it just creates more aggression Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyb79 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 It is quite reasonable to approach a person who is on land which is not a public footpath. However I would not approach them unless they were likely to affect the shooting. I would leave the hide, approach them and ask in a very courteous manner if I could help them You then respond depending how they respond, if they say something pleasant, then you point them towards the nearest public path or road and leave at that. If they become aggressive then as per my post above. (post 2) Don't start talking about legal action and so forth most people know they won't get into trouble and it just creates more aggression I agree completely - don't get me wrong, if we're talking about a reasonable person out for a wander, a friendly chat or just a wave can be appropriate and I wouldn't approach anyone unless they were getting in the way of my shooting, but the OP asked about being approached by someone who was anti shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenduri Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 As soon as you expect a confrontation i would start recording a video of any interaction. Its all to easy for someone anti shooting to say you were acting in a threatening manner and put a call in to the police and quickly have armed rozzers all other you. Personally when i finally get myself setup and a perm or 2 ill be sporting a go pro on my shoulder turning it on for any human interaction to cover myself.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 although a sarcastic / tongue in cheek reply comes instantly into my head. unload, put the gun in slip don't enter into a discussion / argument be polite and film it. Remember to write down all the details any identifying things about the anti and his transport, then report it (even if nothing much happened and get a reference number for the incident if one occurred. What we should be doing is what they do with their monitors etc. trying to catch them in the act of committing any offence with enough evidence to convict, you cannot win an argument with someone with an adgenda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 remember if they have come of the path and are trespassing on private land and are stopping you from carrying out lawfull tasks its classed as aggrevated trespass....go on basc website and there's a page full of info on this subject Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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