Here we go again, what planet is this Judge on?

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Should this Judge be removed from the job?

 

 

http://www.parentdish.co.uk/2014/07/23/thug-who-pointed-shotgun-at-mum-and-daughter-spared-jail/?icid=maing-grid7|ukt2|dl5|sec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D280843#!slide=aol_1005393

 

 

 

Two years detention suspended for two years!

[welsh1]

I read this the other day,why make firearms laws to reassure the public and then totally ignore the guidance.

 

I bet if you or I were stopped with an air rifle 1ft lb over we would get the book thrown at us.

 

Some Judges are not connected to the real world.

[wymberley]

In the current climate, wonder what he would have got if he'd have been carrying a knife instead.

[Les*1066]

Quote: Mum's anger at judge's comments that thief is 'young and impressionable'

 

Angry? I wouldn't be angry ........... I'd be apoplectic!!

 

How about the victims 7 y.o. daughter? She is now suffering from nightmares because of this young moron.

 

The justice system in this country needs a major overhaul. Yet again, it's the poor young perpetrator who gets the sympathy from the courts, while the victim is left permanently traumatised by the whole incident.

 

I'd better stop now, I think ............... I can hear my ****** valve rattling!

[TriBsa]

If you look at the photo of the lad it does look like he's wearing a Burka. That could explain the judge's response.

Edited July 24, 2014 by TriBsa

[guest1957]

If you look at the photo of the lad it does look like he's wearing a Burka. That could explain the judge's response.

This comment is said with tongue firmly in cheek I assume?

[KFC]

As has been said many times before. Our gun laws only affect the law abiding, not the criminals. What a pitiful sentence

[linny]

In the current climate, wonder what he would have got if he'd have been carrying a knife instead.

a trip to Disney land

[TriBsa]

This comment is said with tongue firmly in cheek I assume?

 

But of course sir! I have edited in a smiley. No offence intended, in what does appear to be some bizarre sentancing to put it mildly.

[wymberley]

a trip to Disney land

 

Because of his age, I was under the impression that a mandatory detention and training order of at least 4 months would have applied. So perhaps shotguns will now be the new knives.

[guest1957]

 

But of course sir! I have edited in a smiley. No offence intended, in what does appear to be some bizarre sentancing to put it mildly.

No offence taken - sometimes on here you can't tell if people are being serious...

[TriBsa]

 

Recorder Michael Elsom said Phillips' age and the fact others told him to commit the crime meant the usual three years' jail for carrying a gun with intent should not be imposed.

 

He added Phillips may have acted 'under direction of others'

 

Well that's a contradiction. The "fact" and "may". If he co-operated fully with Police and named names could that have contributed to the leniency of the sentance? It's a sawn off shotgun so it wasn't "borrowed" from his fathers gun cabinet presumably.

Edited July 24, 2014 by TriBsa

[aris]

I thought firearms crimes all carried a mandatory 5 year sentence.

[Penelope]

As did I.

 

I thought firearms crimes all carried a mandatory 5 year sentence.

[wymberley]

I thought firearms crimes all carried a mandatory 5 year sentence.

I don't know, but could his age be a factor.

 

Edit: 3 years detention?

Edited July 24, 2014 by wymberley

[aris]

I don't know, but could his age be a factor.

 

Edit: 3 years detention?

 

If so, this sends a bad message.

[Scully]

Incredible. I wonder what her sentence would be if by some chance she had killed him in self defence.

The article claims he is a 'violent robber', implying he has previous, and is also 'susceptible to pressure' !! Beggars belief.

[clakk]

is judge latin for simpleton who believes in fairys and swallows guff from laywers about their innocent lickle boys who had a hard life n just need a cuggle.beyond belief if it hadnt happened dozens of times already

[spinach]

She deserves more than just £500 , do you think that might have been to stop her from complaining.

Think the sentence needs a review.

John.

[poontang]

I don't know, but could his age be a factor.

 

Edit: 3 years detention?

 

I believe so. According to CPS sentencing guidelines the starting point for a youth is 3 years, with a range of 1 - 6 years detention.

 

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/sentencing_manual/robbery/

 

Either way it is a pitiful sentence. The fact that he was 17 when he committed the offence is neither here nor there if you're confronted by the business end of a sawn off shotgun.

 

I doubt he'll change his ways.

Edited July 24, 2014 by poontang

[Kes]

Where did he get the gun from ? Is it unregistered? Did he have a certificate?

I suspect its an 'off record' firearm picked up illegally and the answer to the last question is, no.

 

In such circumstances thats 3 offences before you start with robbery with intent and using a firearm. I reckon 10 years about fits the bill. ******** slimeball, whatever his age.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

But he is "young and impressionable" and the Judge is presumably OLD and STUPID!

[loriusgarrulus]

Wonder if this could be used as mitigation if you hopped over a fence onto the wrong bit of land off your permission to retrieve a pigeon with gun broken over your arm and got done for armed trespass.

[overandunder2012]

the scrote needs jailing and some time picking up the soap for some chums

[KFC]

the scrote needs jailing and some time picking up the soap for some chums

are you talking about the offender, the judge or both?