James_w12345 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 I have always thought that leaving a shotgun in a car in between drives etc is a bad idea, esp when you often have cartridges nearby too. Therefore, I thought about using a trigger lock when leaving it for any length of time. Are they worth buying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalahari Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Possibly from an keep your ticket/insurance point of view as you could say that you had made that extra effort to secure it. David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travlaa Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 In reality probably not, but it's another box ticked if the worst was to happen and they did go missing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_w12345 Posted July 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 I just watched a video on youtube, where a guy removed one in about 2 seconds with a screwdriver... a limit of the way the ratchet mechanism works. Waste of money it look like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peek-at Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Think of the worst case scenario and what you would wish that you had of done in hindsight....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les*1066 Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Trigger locks won't prevent the shotty being stolen, so I followed my FEO's advice and fitted a bracket in the car and use a motorbike type steel lock to make sure the shotty stays where I put it, although it is very rare for me to ever leave the car unattended in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobba Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 If I know I'm going to have to leave my shotgun in the car for a short while then before setting off I fire the gun with snap caps and then remove the foregrip which I take with me when I leave the car. (I do shoot 20 bores so the foregrip is not that cumbersome to have in the leg pocket of my zippies). Not fool proof but if the remainder of the gun is stolen you can demonstrate having taken reasonable care to prevent the complete gun falling in to the hands of scrotes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 I have one on a cheapo air rifle that I got for the kids. I don't want it in my cabinet so store it in the loft with a trigger lock - it's good enough for me to feel that it is safe but I wouldn't use it for much else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossberg-operator Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) I use a couple of them, better than nothing. As someone said if there is an issue, You have done something to prevent it. It is like a steering wheel lock in a car, the RAC guy could remove it with a screwdriver in 5-10 seconds. No lock, safe is unbreakable. Edited July 25, 2014 by londonercsecse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 I use both a trigger lock and a pair of barrel blocks (like dummy cartridges that lock in the chamber). If you do happen to end up in front of a magistrate, having taken sensible precautions cannot be a bad thing and may help very considerably. It is also a useful thing to have for peace of mind. I suspect the barrel blocks (which were USA made and had approvals over there) would be quite hard to remove, but they are expensive and a bit awkward to use. Also only fit a 12 bore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossberg-operator Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 I use both a trigger lock and a pair of barrel blocks (like dummy cartridges that lock in the chamber). If you do happen to end up in front of a magistrate, having taken sensible precautions cannot be a bad thing and may help very considerably. It is also a useful thing to have for peace of mind. I suspect the barrel blocks (which were USA made and had approvals over there) would be quite hard to remove, but they are expensive and a bit awkward to use. Also only fit a 12 bore. Hi! Can You send a link to those, pls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 If I know I'm going to have to leave my shotgun in the car for a short while then before setting off I fire the gun with snap caps and then remove the foregrip which I take with me when I leave the car. (I do shoot 20 bores so the foregrip is not that cumbersome to have in the leg pocket of my zippies). Not fool proof but if the remainder of the gun is stolen you can demonstrate having taken reasonable care to prevent the complete gun falling in to the hands of scrotes. I remember years ago reading where the owner of some expensive guns had left them in the house (before a cabinet was required) with a note on them saying " these guns are worthless without the forends " he came home one day to find the house robbed and the guns gone , in their place was a note that read "the forends are worthless without the guns " True story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Hi! Can You send a link to those, pls? Unfortunately, I can't as they have vanished. I bought two pairs perhaps 10 years ago. I then ordered a pair of cordura cases for them and paid. They took nearly a year to come (with repeated chasing) and eventually arrived with profound apologies from the seller who was the UK importer - and sent me some spare keys free as compensation for the delay. Keys are custom and they used to hold records of the number so that you could order spares. I got the impression the USA source folded, which was a shame as they are good and well made. They were quite expensive then which probably meant they never sold enough to be viable. I can't find any references to them now, but the importers were in Herefordshire I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Chamberlock I nearly bought some, I use a Napier secure slip with a lock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Unfortunately, I can't as they have vanished. I bought two pairs perhaps 10 years ago. I then ordered a pair of cordura cases for them and paid. They took nearly a year to come (with repeated chasing) and eventually arrived with profound apologies from the seller who was the UK importer - and sent me some spare keys free as compensation for the delay. Keys are custom and they used to hold records of the number so that you could order spares. I got the impression the USA source folded, which was a shame as they are good and well made. They were quite expensive then which probably meant they never sold enough to be viable. I can't find any references to them now, but the importers were in Herefordshire I think. Just done a bit more Googling; Company was "Barrelbloc" and they seem to have ceased about 2001. They were in Hereford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bb Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 I bought a security device that's like a 12 gauge cartridge with a long wire coming out of the front. The idea is that you thread the wire through the barrel, shut the gun then secure the wire to your car, bike, boat, whatever. Unfortunately you could cut the wire with a pair of blunt scissors. Buy cheap & you buy dear. I've a house full of such cheap gadgets, all seemed a good idea at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 A simple long wire with cramped loops at the end. Pass one wire down the barrel and around the base of the steering column and padlock to the other loop. Or, just attach to the load brackets in the boot. Use coated wire and that will leave no marks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peek-at Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Brattonsound do a safe designed for vehicles.......... google brattonsound auto sentinel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 (edited) These are my Barrelblocs, one with the key fitted. You put the device in the chamber - insert the key and tighten until the torque wrench handle of the key slips. A rubber 'snap cap' insert is present in case anyone is foolish enough to pull the trigger. The locks are a kind of round pin type lock, with 7 pins. Contary to what I posted earlier they are marked "CAMLOC (UK), LEICESTER. BARRELBLOC" And here is the patent http://www.google.com/patents/US5044105 Interestingly, the patent includes an 'anti-tamper' mechanism with an 'explosive device'. This may be why the device shows marks that I though looked like (and indeed seem to be) proof marks! This would give a date of 1990 Edited July 26, 2014 by JohnfromUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 I had had a trigger guard lock some years back the type that encases the guard and fitted it to my HW80, until one day I found that I could still shoot it via the safety button!! In the bin it went. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 These are the ones i was on about not sure if still available it was a chap in south wales selling them some time ago but no longer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossberg-operator Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 I got only a few guns, but they are even locked together inside the gun cabinet with a bike cable lock via the triggers. It is not bulletproof, but one more thing to deal with for Mr. Criminal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Funker Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 I use both a trigger lock and a pair of barrel blocks (like dummy cartridges that lock in the chamber). If you do happen to end up in front of a magistrate, having taken sensible precautions cannot be a bad thing and may help very considerably. It is also a useful thing to have for peace of mind. I suspect the barrel blocks (which were USA made and had approvals over there) would be quite hard to remove, but they are expensive and a bit awkward to use. Also only fit a 12 bore. Has any licence holder ever appeared in front of a magistrate for being a victim of theft? I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 I believe that is a YES, but don't have details - but I believe his certificate was removed - and he had to go to court to regain it. I can't vouch for the story 100%, but believe it to be so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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