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Just remember in some areas voluntary arrangements might be in place, effecting some legal quarry

Yes but voluntary agreement does not make a particular quarry illegal to shoot in the eyes of the law, you might well have a short stay in your particular club though !

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Yes but voluntary agreement does not make a particular quarry illegal to shoot in the eyes of the law, you might well have a short stay in your particular club though !

 

The clue is in the word. We also risk upsetting others and this in turn risks the future sport so its good to check. There have also been legal regional restrictions and exemptions in the past

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Have there? None spring instantly to mind other than cold weather suspensions.

 

I am not sure cold weather restriction is fully law but we all abide by it, I am referring to things like the issue Egyptian geese, Whitefront geese etc. It gets a bit like Sunday fowling (complex and localised)

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I am not sure cold weather restriction is fully law but we all abide by it, I am referring to things like the issue Egyptian geese, Whitefront geese etc. It gets a bit like Sunday fowling (complex and localised)

The Cold Weather suspension certainly is Law its commencement is signed off by the Secretary of State http://jncc.defra.gov.uk/page-2894

 

Egyptian Geese are on the General Licence WML-GL06 for the whole of England nothing complex or localised. http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/Images/wml-gl06_tcm6-24151.pdf

 

I'm assuming with Whitefronts you are referring to the situation in Wales which despite the best efforts of the Welsh Assembly remains entirely voluntary. http://basc.org.uk/blog/key-issues/greenland-white-fronted-geese-return-to-wales/

 

There are other localised moratorium such as all grey geese and Shovelor on the Dyfi and Goldeneye on the Tweed but these are entirely voluntary and not upheld by law.

 

The Counties and localities prohibiting Wildfowling on a Sunday are freely available with a quick google search. http://basc.org.uk/cop/wildfowling/

 

Though we all rightly abide by these local restrictions I don't think we should confuse them with the Law. Voluntary agreement works both ways and we give up to much without a fight and through misinformation as it is.

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The Cold Weather suspension certainly is Law its commencement is signed off by the Secretary of State http://jncc.defra.gov.uk/page-2894

 

Egyptian Geese are on the General Licence WML-GL06 for the whole of England nothing complex or localised. http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/Images/wml-gl06_tcm6-24151.pdf

 

I'm assuming with Whitefronts you are referring to the situation in Wales which despite the best efforts of the Welsh Assembly remains entirely voluntary. http://basc.org.uk/blog/key-issues/greenland-white-fronted-geese-return-to-wales/

 

There are other localised moratorium such as all grey geese and Shovelor on the Dyfi and Goldeneye on the Tweed but these are entirely voluntary and not upheld by law.

 

The Counties and localities prohibiting Wildfowling on a Sunday are freely available with a quick google search. http://basc.org.uk/cop/wildfowling/

 

Though we all rightly abide by these local restrictions I don't think we should confuse them with the Law. Voluntary agreement works both ways and we give up to much without a fight and through misinformation as it is.

 

No point getting into the barrack room stuff, I can argue some of this but the point is voluntary or Law or bylaw or whatever else title we give stuff, I think we should know and comply if and were/when it effects us- I haven't seen even seen an Egyptian goose in the wild for instance and I am almost sure it was originally a local GL the first I know of, we all know in wildfowling I feel the GL has become a misrepresented conservation joke

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No point getting into the barrack room stuff, I can argue some of this but the point is voluntary or Law or bylaw or whatever else title we give stuff, I think we should know and comply if and were/when it effects us- I haven't seen even seen an Egyptian goose in the wild for instance and I am almost sure it was originally a local GL the first I know of, we all know in wildfowling I feel the GL has become a misrepresented conservation joke

 

Not quite sure what your getting at there. Of course we should know, understand and comply with laws, by-laws and voluntary moratorium. That was entirely my point but we should also be aware of the difference especially when quoting it to newcomers to the sport or outsiders.

We don't see Egyptian Geese in my part of the country either but it doesn't mean I don't need to understand the laws etc pertaining to them.

 

I'd like to know what parts of my post you feel you could argue against?

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Your right about giving up things to easily or without a fight. Due to the voluntary ban on shoot white fronts on the Dyfi, I let 2 skeins fly straight over me, it was awesome to see them. Yet wildfowlers get no credit for this decades long agreement. When the rspb tried to get the welsh government to make the vol ban law no mention was made of the fact that they had not been shot for years. Then w hen to be fair to the welsh government they said no and were happy with how it was, Iolo Williams went on a rant about how our government were one of few goverments that allow the slaughter of this goose. Its numbers are still on the decline dispite the vol ban but they still try to level the blame on fowlers.

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