Charlie R Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Just been looking at the cost of steel cartridges for both a 10 bore and a 12bore with a 3.5inch chamber. I'm surprised there are not more 10bore semis up for sale as the cost of the shells are shocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Think that's partly why most people home load for a 10... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Most people who buy a 10 know what the shells cost before they buy one. Most people who own them will load their own and save around 50% on factory shells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Most people who buy a 10 know what the shells cost before they buy one. Most people who own them will load their own and save around 50% on factory shells. also re-loading is seriously interesting when you get into it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerbyshireDale. Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Just been looking at the cost of steel cartridges for both a 10 bore and a 12bore with a 3.5inch chamber. I'm surprised there are not more 10bore semis up for sale as the cost of the shells are shocking. The 10g handles the larger steel shot sizes better than a 12g as the bore diameter is bigger so less constriction even in the choke plus, more powder in the cartridge gives it a bit more power when your after the Geese!...I think most users dont take the cost into consideration as its not as though you are firing off hundreds and like most folk have said, there are a lot of reloaders who will just load some to what spec they like, when they're require a few. atb...Dale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie R Posted July 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 With the cost aside negated by home loading are the patterns that much better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberFowl Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 A bad cart in a badly choked 10 won't be as good as a good cart in a correctly choked 12. But if you do with a ten what you do with a 12 with aftermarket chokes and home loading...a ten will outperform a 12 by a good way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie R Posted July 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Ive never used aftermarket chokes and have stuck to 1/2 in the semi which seems to work well in either the hatsan or the mossberg. I try to take shots in less than 35 yards so I assuming that at that range a 42g 12 or a 46g 10 are going to perform fairly similar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberFowl Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 If you aren't shooting over 35yards then you may as well stick with a 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerbyshireDale. Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) With the cost aside negated by home loading are the patterns that much better? yes, the 10g patterns better with steel (large sizes) as they're not constricted as much. Steel does'nt compress like lead and reacts badly to being squashed, just like "Ball Bearings" they'll bounce off one another. A good 1.5oz or heavier load, Buffered, patterns well out of a 10g. Edited July 31, 2014 by DerbyshireDale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 its a question ive thought of for a long time and one ive meant to post on here.. but does my 42g 1 in my 3..5" 12 bore perform that much worse than a similar load in my mates 10 bore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 With the cost aside negated by home loading are the patterns that much better? Yes they are far far better and also despite claims to the contrary I tested 3 1/2" 12 against 10 ga both Nitro steel at 50 yards and found significantly more energy in the pellets (going clean though the 9mm ply backer in the ten and just getting a few through in the 12.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie R Posted August 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Could I ask what the 12g? I have a mossberg 935 which has a fairly chunky barrel, ie its backbored i believe so maybe more akin to a 10g. I will run some tests with it comparison to the hatsan and come back to you gentlemen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Could I ask what the 12g? I have a mossberg 935 which has a fairly chunky barrel, ie its backbored i believe so maybe more akin to a 10g. I will run some tests with it comparison to the hatsan and come back to you gentlemen. Winchester SX3 tried with std and aftermarket chokes in the 12. The ten is just a Zabala sbs I had the chokes taken to 1/2 ans 1/2 on and no lengthening of the cones ot nothing fancy. If you were asking about firing heavy 12 ga 3" class loads out of a 20 the answers would be the same (3 1/2" super mag 12 is a shoe horn job) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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