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Well, I feel grown up enough to have a watch bought by the good Dr this birthday.

 

To be honest I've not really paid much attention to them in the past, but the more I look, the more I'm getting excited about it.

 

The question is, what is the real difference between makes?

 

My budget for looking incorporate lots of makes I've found watches I like.....Panerai, Bremont, Longines.

 

 

I'm not into metal straps, I've not got bear like wrists so these makes seem to suit me.

 

I've found a Longines that I adore, but what is the real difference, is it just taste, fashion?

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Depends on whether you want one for functionality or as a fashion accessory..

 

What makes a watch is the movement and as a purist it has to be a mechanical movement for me I have a very large collection of watches all automatic or mechanical wind up. Once you have seen the sheer craftsmanship that goes into making a mechanical movement, particularly something top end like a ETA 2824/2T chronometer grade or the Valjoux 7750 you will never wear a Quartz watch.

 

Buy a reasonable quality Swiss made auto with an ETA movement in fly back and get a magnifying glass and have a good look at the movement through the glass. You will be mesmerised.

 

I don't wish to sound a snob but why someone would pay several thousands for a top Swiss Marque with a £ 150 Japanese quartz movement is totally beyond me.

 

You will have to win the Euro millions to afford a decent Panerai.!

 

I have several Longines, fine watches. I also have about 20 rare Swatch Autos, a Vacheron, a Breguet, several Tissots, and a really nice vintage Seconda Auto which believe it or not has a corkingly good movement.

 

I have my eye on a new Bremont but want to find out a bit about the movements they use and where they are made before committing.

 

Oris make some very nice watches.

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Yes, frankly a £10 quartz Casio will keep better time than a £20k Patek Philippe but there is something special about a quality watch. They are mini masterpieces of engineering excellence.

Quite right...even a cheap quartz watch will be accurate to 1 second or so per month whereas even the very best Swiss Mechanical Movements working at 99.98% accuracy will lose a second or two over 24 hours.

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I've been sniffing round an Oris recently.

 

Nice watches and reasonably priced.

 

Every posh watch I have had I've made money on (I have bought second hand and with research) so you get to use a nice watch for so long as you have it, and when you sell it you get more than you paid back.

 

My best one was buying a second hand patek from a jeweller and getting £3k more than I paid for the watch at a Bonhams auction a year later.

 

Nothing desirable ever gets any cheaper over the long term

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Mike,

 

Do you mean panerai at my budget would be no good? Will I be paying for a name? Sorry to sound naive, but I am!

 

I'm purely going on what I like vs my budget, it's not euro million money by a long stretch.

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I had a Seiko for years and years. Then father told me he bought a Seiko for fifty quid reduced from £250, so bought one as well.

Do you know what? I lost both of 'em in about five minutes. ****. I got back late one night and she weren't impressed. Next thing i'm off to the watch shop.

It's an Omega Seamaster. Second hand is black and yellow. It tells the date.Can hardly read the **** on the face.....>15'000 Gauss......I think?

You can see all the tickerty tock bits in the back.

Feels like a good 'un.

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Mike,

 

Do you mean panerai at my budget would be no good? Will I be paying for a name? Sorry to sound naive, but I am!

 

I'm purely going on what I like vs my budget, it's not euro million money by a long stretch.

No... depends what your budget is are we talking 100,s or 1000,s A decent Panerai would set you back 5-10K

 

Incidentally a former colleague had a ww2 divers watch taken from an Italian navy POW by her late uncle in exchange for cigarettes . She didn't know it had a rolex movement and subsequently put it into auction on my advice and it went for about 37k back to Panerai who bought it. It was the original radiomir with a wide strap to fit over the diver suit and big radioactive numerals.

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My advice, buy a watch from a company that makes watches. Not a fashion brand that makes (puts their label on) watches.

Couldn't agree more! Budget isn't really relevant, I have spent tens of pounds on a watch and thousands on a watch, the one thing I would never do is to part with a few hundred for a Diesel, DKNY or any other junk fashion watch.

 

Casio are probably the only exception to this rule because original Casio digital watches are so cool at the moment!

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Yes, frankly a £10 quartz Casio will keep better time than a £20k Patek Philippe but there is something special about a quality watch. They are mini masterpieces of engineering excellence.

Spot on, if you want a watch just to tell accurate time, buy one from Argos for £30. But if you want a classic you have to pay. one of my ambitions is to have a nice Patek Phillippe. In my view the ultimate classic.

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Thing is, you'll often find old top-quality watches for quite cheap money. I've got an Omega Seamaster from the 60s, in perfect mechanical condition, currently needing a new strap. A valuation a couple of months ago came back at £200-300. So you can get good quality for reasonable prices.

 

Slightly related to that, anyone know if any of the leatherworkers on here would make a watch strap ?

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I bought a Rolex Submariner new for £180.00 in 1977 which I wear every day and I have it serviced about every five years, when it gets dirty I wash it under the tap, tough as old boots and always looks as good as new, however being a mechanical movement it is not as accurate as quartz. I also have a Rolex Air King that I bought for £20.00 from a junk shop in 1984 had it refurbished by Rolex and use this for best. The price that you would have to pay for one today, would frighten me to death!

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