Rs2 springer Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 If im honest i cant afford the full pcp kit that i probally would like to this is why ive always liked spring piston rifles but been reading up on gas ram or igt and seem to be reasonable priced but i havent got that much knowledge on these so how do they compare to spring or pcp Many thanks in advance Rs2 springer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les*1066 Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 I don't like the recoil on a gas ram powered rifle. It is very sharp and 'choppy', but a lot of people swear by them. If the rifle has been designed for a gas ram, it is probably going to be better behaved than one which has been converted from a springer, but the only way to know whether you like them or not is to go and try a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 IMO stay clear mate , if you cant afford a decent pcp then just get a HW80 springer,,you wont need anything else atb Evo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED BEARD Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 I like the way gas ram guns behave, I use a fenman and love it . I've had a few theoben gas ram guns and they've all been sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryman Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Opposite for me, had a new Theoben Gas Ram and it was rubbish, bouncy to shoot and loud, mind you it was one of there last ones before they went bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moorvale55 Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 +1 with Evo on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordripon Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 try a hw90 ! its a hw 80 with a gas ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFC Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 It also depends what you are going to use the rifle for. As a gamekeeper, I use mine for vermin control. On Rabbits for example, I used to use a Webley Longbow springer and a Webley Vulcan converted to gas ram. Although they were moderated I found that when there was a number of Rabbits together then I could slot one but by the time I'd broken the barrel, reached for another pellet and closed the barrel again then all that noise and movement sent all the other bunnies bolting for cover. PCP 10 shot, just a click on the shot, a flick of the fingers to reload and ready to take another shot so I only use PCP now. If you're doing target shooting then this is all irrelevant of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onatangent Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Had a springer for many years, went to a Gamo Whisper igt and was a pain to shoot on target reliably. Now on a pcp setup I wouldn't ever go back as they are easy to shoot and look after. Budget is always a consideration and pcp has the draw back of needing pumps/bottles but then you do get 50+ shots out of a fill. I wasn't sure and almost bought a BSA lightening xl as had convinced myself I needed to be self sufficient in the field with a cock and shoot approach. I'm glad I was lured into the pcp world. Gas ram have good servicing intervals with the gas unit lasting some 100k cycles iirc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 I had a Theoben HW90 Euro back in the day and it was a joy to shoot, still own a standard 90 running at 16.5 ft lbs and it too is a sweet shooter, I've had plenty of twangy springers though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt 205 gti Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Theoben fenman profile with a vortex silencer best air rifle i have ever owned ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbower Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 I had a BSA Lightning gas ram,it was as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike. I sold it to get a HW95K, springer. What a difference in quality? What a gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 I've owned 2 hw90's and swear by both of them . I used them for hunting and field target which I managed 18/30 using a .22 using no rangefinder or mildots/ BDC so really can't fault them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 I like the way gas ram guns behave, I use a fenman and love it . I've had a few theoben gas ram guns and they've all been sound. +1 I've had 3 Gas Ram guns in the past and all have been excellent tbh. I had a Theoben Sirocco and two Fenmans and they were beautiful! I only sold them cos I prefer PCP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rs2 springer Posted August 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 Ok its gave me a few ideas now so ive been looking round local shops and got two to choose from im sticking with spring so the two guns are hw95k or hw97k pros and cons on these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nighteye Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 If you are sure about sticking with a springer , you could get it tuned by Sandwell field sports I use a pcp and swear by them until I recently shot a hw 80 tuned by them and it was swweeeet to shoot and just as accurate as my falcon prairie as well as being self sufficient ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEd85 Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 I am a convert to tuned springers, everyone should try one. I have a V Mach tunes HW98 .177 and it is fantastic, best airgun I have owned. Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbower Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 HW 95K, What a great gun. I,fitted a V mach kit in mine, and its just great. Just keep an eye on the power though because they do creep up, as they bed in. You will love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatsanmad Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 I have shot and owned spring pcp and gas rams. To be honest now i have a fully tuned hw80 tuned by sandwell fieldsports thats my favourite. As for gas rams it all depends and in my honest opinion the only gas rams to consider are the older theoben i.e sirroco fenman or the hw90 the newer ones that bsa crosman ect use are **** the just a all in one drop in unit. I have shot theoben rammers and the hw90 and the best was the hw90 its heavier so balances out perfectly very well made. And as for the recoil theres basicly is non and i can say its on par with a very well tuned springer the theobens are good but the only good one is the hw90. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt 205 gti Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 +1 I've had 3 Gas Ram guns in the past and all have been excellent tbh. I had a Theoben Sirocco and two Fenmans and they were beautiful! I only sold them cos I prefer PCP. bullet boy, That comment genuinely surprised me i would of thought it was theoben all the way i will never part with mine , each to ther own tho matey ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olly321 Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Ive had a few gas ram rifles over the years once you get used to the recoil there a good gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratbuster Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Do have a Theoben / HW model 90 in .25 (FAC doing 20 fpe with H&N FTT) and a Theoben Countryman in .20 (doing 11.4 fpe with JSB exact 13.1 grains), really love these rifles. The 90 is a bit on the heavy side, not so good for smaller people, but the Countryman is just great. Never gone part with that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 IMO stay clear mate , if you cant afford a decent pcp then just get a HW80 springer,,you wont need anything else atb Evo Sound advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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