hoggysreels Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 (edited) Anyone used one ? ... lve read about the "Walther Rotex R8 .22 calibre" ... it certainly appeals to me ... how do they weigh up to the likes of the equivalent Hatsan/Brocock/BSA offerings, 'keeping the cost as comparible as reasonably possible between then ... lm chomping at the bit to own a .22 PCP ... and a Daystate will be out my league, or l'd plump for one in a shot ... atb hoggy Edited August 18, 2014 by hoggysreels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineshooter Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Not sure if anyone will have one yet, they have only just hit the shops at around £400, they are in the starter rifle budget, looks a little like the Bsa Ultra to me., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyshooter Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 the initial reviews sound good i have one in .22 on order. atb brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfshot Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) Hi hoggy After a drive up to blackpool air rifles to buy the Rotex R8 in 177 they only had the .22 in stock.so the .177 is on order should be with me in 2-3 weeks Once i have it if you fancy having a try give me a PM ATB Roger Ps because blackpool air rifles did not have the rifle in stock and there web site said they did they have coverdthe cost of sending to RFD .Very happy with there service. Edited August 20, 2014 by golfshot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted August 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 (edited) Hi hoggy After a drive up to blackpool air rifles to buy the Rotex R8 in 177 they only had the .22 in stock.so the .177 is on order should be with me in 2-3 weeks Once i have it if you fancy having a try give me a PM ATB Roger Ps because blackpool air rifles did not have the rifle in stock and there web site said they did they have coverdthe cost of sending to RFD .Very happy with there service. Cheers Roger ... l'm dithering about making a decision "typically me !!" ... lve a short list "all .22 " Hatsan AT44-10 "Wood Stock" Brocock Concept "Wood stock" Walther Rotex R8 I want "new" with warranty .. been advised by a mate, l'd be better off buying a S/H S410, but lm a bit concerned about there not being a warranty. Hence me dithering lol ... to be honest, lm not clued up enough really, regarding PCP's ... lm still trying to understand the terminology .. "buddy bottle etc" is an instance. Im also aware once bought, l will still need to lay out cash for the refilling. And lm still learning what that involves. If lve made it sound like a problem, then lve mislead. Im actually enjoying learning and enquiring !! Edited August 22, 2014 by hoggysreels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmytree Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 Cheers Roger ... l'm dithering about making a decision "typically me !!" ... lve a short list "all .22 " Hatsan AT44-10 "Wood Stock" Brocock Concept "Wood stock" Walther Rotex R8 I want "new" with warranty .. been advised by a mate, l'd be better off buying a S/H S410, but lm a bit concerned about there not being a warranty. Hence me dithering lol ... to be honest, lm not clued up enough really, regarding PCP's ... lm still trying to understand the terminology .. "buddy bottle etc" is an instance. Im also aware once bought, l will still need to lay out cash for the refilling. And lm still learning what that involves. If lve made it sound like a problem, then lve mislead. Im actually enjoying learning and enquiring !! I can understand wanting the warranty but look at it another way. If you're going to go PCP and have little experience it may be batter to buy something that is proven and easy to maintain. The RX8 is unknown, nobody has stripped one, it may be brilliant but after 12 months it could be a nightmare. If you really want a PCP now I would say a S400/410 is a safe purchase, plenty of spares and info, fairly basic and well within the capabilities of most owners to service. Leave the RX8 for 12 months until other people have tried it and taken the hit on depreciation, £400 now is £250 in 12 months time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted August 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Problem is, there arn't a great many "£400" air rifles that are 12 months or so old, that sell for the £250 mark ... lve all but dismissed the Brocock. I'm considering the Walther or the Hatsan ...either makes in 22. Will leave it a couple of weeks and deliberate more, l'm a compulsive deliberator. Im arrived at that conclusion having given it, some thought! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted August 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Well after posting l'd all but dismissed the Brocock, things might be a bit different! Today l shouldered a BSA Raider and a Brocock. By far the Brocock felt nicer imho ... the BSA had a buddy bottle, Brocock hadn't. BSA was secondhand. Came with silencer & Scope. The cost was on parr with a new Walther & Brocock, though both unscoped. The secondhand market pcp wise is bouyant to say the least ... think its going to be a new sub £400 pcp and sort the refilling out, possibly the secondhand route. Just got to look at the Walther and Hatsan. Wood stock Hatsan's are thin on the ground regards physically getting hands on and gaining the feeling of fit and balance etc ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolkgoose Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Hatsan or webly raider basically the same rifle but hatsan at44-10 is a great little pcp in .22 or .177 good value for money from new or second hand does the job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted August 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Anyone suggest were is the best places to go regards stockist for the ... 1. Walther Rotex R8 in .22 2. Hatsan AT44-10 "wood stock only..22 Tony's camo dont and wont be stocking the Walther and presenty doesn't have any pcp Hatsan on display. .. though they do have Brocock .. just want to spend a day driving round checking out which one lm going to choose ... Wirral air rifles apparently stock Walther, but for a reason best known to them, they are the most expensive ... any suggestion, much appreciated ... l dont mind travellng an hour or so.getting to a decent stockists, Blackpool air rifles is on the very limit, but not out the question ... Liverpool is a dead loss regards air rifle retailers! ... atb Hoggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfshot Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Hi Hoggy Valley Arms at Ruthin are waiting for the walther to come in to stock and are hoping to have them in early next week i don't know the price but you can always ask them to price match.I am still waiting for my .177 to come in but once i have it you are welcome to try it.On the subject of second hand air rifles in all honesty i have had less problems with secondhand than i have new and if you keep looking thru the adds you do find the odd bargain last year i picked up a BSA R10 MK2 three months old £400 as i already had said rifle it was sold to a mate for the same price bargain!!! ATB Golfshot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted August 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Cheers mate .. never gave Valley Arms a second thought .. probably because lve only ever been there the once and it was shut lol. If some thing secondhand came about l'd give it serious consideration .. atb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Anyone suggest were is the best places to go regards stockist for the ... 1. Walther Rotex R8 in .22 2. Hatsan AT44-10 "wood stock only..22 Tony's camo dont and wont be stocking the Walther and presenty doesn't have any pcp Hatsan on display. .. though they do have Brocock .. just want to spend a day driving round checking out which one lm going to choose ... Wirral air rifles apparently stock Walther, but for a reason best known to them, they are the most expensive ... any suggestion, much appreciated ... l dont mind travellng an hour or so.getting to a decent stockists, Blackpool air rifles is on the very limit, but not out the question ... Liverpool is a dead loss regards air rifle retailers! ... atb Hoggy Very true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyshooter Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Hi Hoggy, i now have my Rotex R8 pcp , initial thoughts are its an excellent gun for £399-00 from my regular gun shop May of London, it handles well, the Minelli stock looks good imo, the gun is well balanced and shoots consistantly accurately i am well happy with the gun., and reccomend it whole heartly. atb brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenduri Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 i've had a change to shoot the Hatsan AT44-10 and for what it is it's a nice little rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 peter have a bloody word with Roger (golfshot) he,s got that many air rifles mate he will be bigger than blackpool air rifles soon lol if you speak nicely you might be able to squeeze one out of him,,,,,,,,but I doubt it,, it will be like trying to skin your own hand,,, but he has got some stunning air rifles but and he,s not a bad shot also atb Evo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayes Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Don't know what it is about this Rotex but I like the look of it, maybe someone will turn up at the range with one, so I can have a butchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted September 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Picked mine up yesterday (.22) ... its my first pcp ... only put a few dozen pellets through it. Coming from a springer it takes a bit of time to familiarise with the dark side of pcp's ... it just seems a lot of gun for the money .. that said, the Gamo Coyote was impressive. I had to have a few moments thought about which one to choose. Both at £400 ... suppose its down to personal preferrence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted September 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Anyone considered fitting a moderator and if so, which one ... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyshooter Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Hi Hoggy. the weihrauch silencer is the bestone!1 atb brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfshot Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 still waiting for mine to come in to stock .when it dose ill try a few different silencers and let you know which i think works best. ATB roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted September 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Cheers Brian... will check it out .. couple of nights work to do that is hindering my pastime lol .. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted September 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Cheers Roger ... i wont be picking one up for a couple of weeks. My order of precurement "due to lack of spendies" is .. 1. Air bottle/plus neccesary fittings etc 2. Moderator 3. Bipod 4. Large enough Gun bag "similar to Evo's" .. he gets his gun and make up in his lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayes Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Hi I was in my local rfd on Saturday and was looking at the front cover of airgun world yes it was the Rotex R8, the guy next to me said what ever you do don't buy one of them I had mine four days and got shut of it a loss. I would rather not post his comments but he was not well pleased, then on Sunday at the range someone else said pretty much the same?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfshot Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Hi I was in my local rfd on Saturday and was looking at the front cover of airgun world yes it was the Rotex R8, the guy next to me said what ever you do don't buy one of them I had mine four days and got shut of it a loss. I would rather not post his comments but he was not well pleased, then on Sunday at the range someone else said pretty much the same?. hi did they give any reasons for there comments? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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