richards0170 Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 All, after some good and cery poor days this year i have always set my hide up in the morning say half 6 then decoys out normally ready by 7am. I am off on a promising field tomorrow which i have watched for a few days, but i have set my hide up tonight on the edge of a copse in the middle of a stubble field which is the flightline(had at least 20 come over whilst setting up tonight), im hoping to turn up at 6am tomorrow, decoys out and ready togo. Just wondered if any1 else sets their hides up the night before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 On a couple of locations I shoot, I have semi permanent hides prepared (all with natural material), I just have to make minimal adjustments when I arrive. However, I don't commit to them unless the birds are there. I would be reluctant to leave poles/nets , etc., anywhere people had access to, even overnight. I hope you have a good day, let us know how you get on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 I have had hides disappear that I have left out . If its just for a one off trip i do not really see the benefit , I would just erect it when I shoot , the flight line may have changed tomorrow. I would also say that you are likely to get better sport if you left it until later in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) I often leave my hide up and the rotary and heavy stuff in the hedge if i am within sight of the farm house and returning in the morning.Its also a good idea to flag of fields the night before. Edited August 29, 2014 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 I have had hides stolen before. I wouldn't bother leaving anything in a field overnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 It takes 5 minutes to set the hide up so the only real justification is having less gear to carry which is kind of negated if the spot you pick turns out to be second best on the day of the shoot. Semi permanent from natural material is different altogether as Cranfield says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) i have always set my hide up in the morning say half 6 then decoys out normally ready by 7am. I am off on a promising field tomorrow which i have watched for a few days, which is the flightline(had at least 20 come over whilst setting up tonight) im hoping to turn up at 6am tomorrow, decoys out and ready togo. Just wondered if any1 else sets their hides up the night before? .Its also a good idea to flag of fields the night before. ( Davyo) Well by the time you read this you will have returned from the day, so how did it go? Have you thought about where the birds are coming from and going to in regard to the flagging off of fields? As above. Or setting up on the fields where they are actually going to feed on. You have set up on a flight line but there may be better alternatives. In the past I have set off at the crack of dawn but I don't do it anymore because The day hasn't got set as to what the birds are going to do on that day. sometimes everything has been soaking wet and cold and I have set up in the wrong place or nothing has shown up at all or I've set up and then the field is full of tractors harvesting, cultivating or hedge cutting. Now I get there about 9 and just have a good look to see what is actually happening before I set up. A much better result. and as such I don't set up anything the night before but I've had a good look during the time of day that I'm going to be there and stood in the place where I think that I'm going to set up to see what the angles are and how the sun and wind will come into play. I generally have a second or third place to set up in case there is a reason not to shoot the place where I intended to go. Finally a look at the weather forcast. Edited August 30, 2014 by fortune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich1985 Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 I have had stuff stolen too, I always just make a hide when I go now, as you said you were building your hide yest evening and that's when the birds were flighting maybe an afternoon session would be best, I don't know the flight line or the situation your shooting tho so you may get an all day session on! Best of luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richards0170 Posted August 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Well what a cracking day, the hides were still there this morning which was a Bonus with greenery still attached, We were either side of a small copse in the middle,first shot fired at 6am. U fortunatly not from my side if the copse but hey ho i held it out for an hour but for nothing apart from some long dostance hopeful shots, i was in the wrong place. I moved 20 meters around and there the birds were. Although they werent coming into my decoys but were loving the ones the opposite side. After an hour of listening to my cousin laughing at my misfortune we swapped hides......but so did the bloody birds we stayed like this for another 2 hours and i finally got my share of the birds, although his hide had gone dry, we decided that the hide i was in Was a "hot one" due to the pigeons leaving the town, across the maize and into our decoys. This was how we stayed and removed the other hide. With a couple quiet intervals and some spots of aweful shooting 26carts for no birds👊😆 we had a very satisfactory day with 67 pigeons 4 crows 2jays and a sea pigeon😉. Fair to say the new 725 got a good break in!! On another note though, there were 4 flightlines in this field in constant use. Although i think we chose the right one/2 how the hell do you keep the others lines quiet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Whats a sea pigeon ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 Up here they are otherwise known as sea gulls ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 Reading your post ,If I was you I would spend more time watching than shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside1000 Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 Personally I cant be bothered to get up at first light to shoot pigeons, I find midday plenty early enough, the birds are out all afternoon stocking up for the long nights , especially in the winter months, and I find them far more confident and will commit to decoys , my day goes : get up late, breakfast, chill out, pack the van, arrive on permission around midday, take plenty of time to set up properly, studying any flight lines, wind direction, get the hide right, and decoy patterns, only when everything is looking good does the gun come out of the slip, pour the coffee, stick a couple in the breech and settle down, I will shoot until the light goes if the birds are still active, then home in time for dinner, perfick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 + 1. What a plank!!! Up here they are otherwise known as sea gulls ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Now that my patch is going to have Rape for the very first time...and now that i feel better after going on this gluten free diet...im going to build 4 permant hides into the hedges and the edge of the woodland, i will be using bits of old cammo netting that i have left over and will allow the brambles to intertwine with it..... when i see what happens on the rape , i will position the hides then and take a few photos.... going back to the OP....every person i know who has put up his /her hide a day or two beforehand sooner or later has had them nicked.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 + 1. What a plank!!! who me cheeky ****** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 No, the OP. who me cheeky ****** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalmac Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 I'm certainly no shooting jedi by any means, but if I was to miss consistently then I'd certainly re-think quickly so that I don't waste many opportunities or carts. I.e if I miss 2 in a row I think very carefully and change what I am doing. This is the same as clays and I was once told by Poontang on here whilst doing a round of skeet with him this - "If you are missing the same bird time and time again, change something and try again as you won't hit it by doing the same thing, obviously". This is true, and if I miss a couple of shots in a row, I seriously think about what I am doing - am I stopping my swing, am I giving enough lead, am I mounting correctly, what's my foot position like etc... Just a thought :-) Also - what is a sea pigeon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 I take it as being a sea gull. I'm certainly no shooting jedi by any means, but if I was to miss consistently then I'd certainly re-think quickly so that I don't waste many opportunities or carts. I.e if I miss 2 in a row I think very carefully and change what I am doing. This is the same as clays and I was once told by Poontang on here whilst doing a round of skeet with him this - "If you are missing the same bird time and time again, change something and try again as you won't hit it by doing the same thing, obviously". This is true, and if I miss a couple of shots in a row, I seriously think about what I am doing - am I stopping my swing, am I giving enough lead, am I mounting correctly, what's my foot position like etc... Just a thought :-) Also - what is a sea pigeon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalmac Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 I take it as being a sea gull. I did too, but Sea gull is a bit vague anyhow, technically there isn't such a thing. Plus only one species is on the general licence isn't it? (Lesser black backed IIRC) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Just a thought :-) Also - what is a sea pigeon? Rock Dove?? Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistolgrip Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Don't think setting up the hide the day before is as vital for pigeon as it is for crow but it's nice if you can, not so much stumbling about in the gloom, first 3 hours of the morning are normaly the best on my ground so no lay in's for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew f Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 sea pigeon better than a pork pie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Imp Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 I have had hides stolen before. I wouldn't bother leaving anything in a field overnight. if a thief can see it, it wont fool a pigeon....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Imp Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 going back to the OP....every person i know who has put up his /her hide a day or two beforehand sooner or later has had them nicked.... Are you decoying in Liverpool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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