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Same as above need some ideas for hides

 

What do you intend to try and shoot from your hide?

As a little more info from you might steer people to an answer you are looking for.....

A general rule of thumb.....

 

Don't build a fortress as they take time and when you have to move as you have picked the wrong spot, you are less lightly to want to do so as it took you so long to build.....

 

You need a good field of view, one which is most important these day's as people wander around where they like, having bind spots in you hide because you cant see out is something I avoid...

 

For my money using cheap poles is a waste of time....

 

Avoid using pop up hides as the only person to profit from them is the person selling them to you..... :oops:

 

 

TEH

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Its a Night hawk. I have bought it to use for rabbit shooting as I have limited mobility and will not be doing any walked up.

 

What are the limitations of them as I could not find anything slating them before I bought it.

Common sense is the limitation.......If you read post 6 and some of mine.....then there is your answer. There is no excuse for not having a good field of view and being aware of what is going on around you.....

If you cant see what is going on then the risk factor goes up....which brings me back to the common sense part in the beginning part of the reply......... :whistling:

 

TEH.

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Common sense is the limitation.......If you read post 6 and some of mine.....then there is your answer. There is no excuse for not having a good field of view and being aware of what is going on around you.....

If you cant see what is going on then the risk factor goes up....which brings me back to the common sense part in the beginning part of the reply......... :whistling:

 

TEH.

What about if you only shoot in your line of vision, who shoots where you can't see and why would you?
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What about if you only shoot in your line of vision, who shoots where you can't see and why would you?

 

What about if you only shoot in your line of vision, who shoots where you can't see and why would you?

From my experiences as a regular shooter, I come across all sorts of situations...

Ramblers going off the foot paths and trying to shoo your decoys, young people getting lost on their Duke of Edinburgh's Award walks.....Dog walkers going where they like....

 

So I make sure I have a good field of view which is NOT hindered by my hide.....that is the reason I would not use a micky mouse pop up hide...................which would restrict my field of view

 

2 weeks ago I spotted a couple come in to a field 1/2 a mile off the foot path...the husband had the " map"

They walked all the way through the decoy pattern, stopped, took pictures and then carried on.....

I had put the gun in the slip and asked them " were they lost" he said " no"

The wife said yes we are...where is the foot path please, 1/2 a mile that way madam.

Thank you she replied and they still carried on....

 

 

This is the part of my first post..

"You need a good field of view, one which is most important these day's as people wander around where they like", having bind spots in you hide because you cant see out is something I avoid...

 

 

TEH

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Very true, on Saturday I had a young guy come flying round a hedge corner riding a mountain bike on the stewardship head land. He very nearly crashed when I popped up out the hide and said 'good afternoon, are you lost'. He was on to my position in seconds and I had had a few shots in that direction.

 

Once again, someone being where they ought not to be.

 

 

 

From my experiences as a regular shooter, I come across all sorts of situations...

Ramblers going off the foot paths and trying to shoo your decoys, young people getting lost on their Duke of Edinburgh's Award walks.....Dog walkers going where they like....

 

So I make sure I have a good field of view which is NOT hindered by my hide.....that is the reason I would not use a micky mouse pop up hide...................which would restrict my field of view

 

2 weeks ago I spotted a couple come in to a field 1/2 a mile off the foot path...the husband had the " map"

They walked all the way through the decoy pattern, stopped, took pictures and then carried on.....

I had put the gun in the slip and asked them " were they lost" he said " no"

The wife said yes we are...where is the foot path please, 1/2 a mile that way madam.

Thank you she replied and they still carried on....

 

 

This is the part of my first post..

"You need a good field of view, one which is most important these day's as people wander around where they like", having bind spots in you hide because you cant see out is something I avoid...

 

 

TEH

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From my experiences as a regular shooter, I come across all sorts of situations...

Ramblers going off the foot paths and trying to shoo your decoys, young people getting lost on their Duke of Edinburgh's Award walks.....Dog walkers going where they like....

 

So I make sure I have a good field of view which is NOT hindered by my hide.....that is the reason I would not use a micky mouse pop up hide...................which would restrict my field of view

 

2 weeks ago I spotted a couple come in to a field 1/2 a mile off the foot path...the husband had the " map"

They walked all the way through the decoy pattern, stopped, took pictures and then carried on.....

I had put the gun in the slip and asked them " were they lost" he said " no"

The wife said yes we are...where is the foot path please, 1/2 a mile that way madam.

Thank you she replied and they still carried on....

 

 

This is the part of my first post..

"You need a good field of view, one which is most important these day's as people wander around where they like", having bind spots in you hide because you cant see out is something I avoid...

 

 

TEH

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I completely agree and walkers, runners, mountain bikers, dog walkers, courting couples and all sorts have been near me when I have been in a hide and I have always made my presence known to them. My point is really, if you have a blind spot you would never shoot in that direction, so what's the problem of a pop up hide. The only real negative I see is that it reduces your potential for a shot because you won't see the quarry. If you only shoot within your line of vision ( which only experienced guns would) it's not a problem.

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I completely agree and walkers, runners, mountain bikers, dog walkers, courting couples and all sorts have been near me when I have been in a hide and I have always made my presence known to them. My point is really, if you have a blind spot you would never shoot in that direction, so what's the problem of a pop up hide. The only real negative I see is that it reduces your potential for a shot because you won't see the quarry. If you only shoot within your line of vision ( which only experienced guns would) it's not a problem.

This has all started because of the pop up hide post.....and that poster never inquired as to what the chap was going to shot....

It was a post with out any substance as later the info came about the chap was after shooting pigeons.

I never mentioned about shooting where you cant see, only to make sure you can see.

As you have also confirmed people do and will wander into your potential line of fire because they are stupid.....

 

So my last words on this thread are.......

 

pop-up hides are CARP.....................

 

TEH

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Same as above need some ideas for hides

These are very good hide nets. Along with four simple poles they make a good hide. They do various stealth nets for different background blending, these are a good one to start with.

Hope that helps

 

4m Pro 3ply Stealth Ghost Camo Net Pigeon Hide

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From my experiences as a regular shooter, I come across all sorts of situations...

Ramblers going off the foot paths and trying to shoo your decoys, young people getting lost on their Duke of Edinburgh's Award walks.....Dog walkers going where they like....

 

So I make sure I have a good field of view which is NOT hindered by my hide.....that is the reason I would not use a micky mouse pop up hide...................which would restrict my field of view

 

2 weeks ago I spotted a couple come in to a field 1/2 a mile off the foot path...the husband had the " map"

They walked all the way through the decoy pattern, stopped, took pictures and then carried on.....

I had put the gun in the slip and asked them " were they lost" he said " no"

The wife said yes we are...where is the foot path please, 1/2 a mile that way madam.

Thank you she replied and they still carried on....

 

 

This is the part of my first post..

"You need a good field of view, one which is most important these day's as people wander around where they like", having bind spots in you hide because you cant see out is something I avoid...

 

 

TEH

yep, I get that all the time. My home is 150 yards off the road and by the time they get to us they are already clueless. I have stopped even bothering to warn them of the danger of setting off onto the fell without proper gear and the ability to actually read their map. Last night one guy was setting off on what is a 2 hr hike for a marine, trouble was he only had an hour of light!

My FEO asked me about footpaths and I said " cant take them into account as the blighters can turn up anyplace thinking they are on the path"

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One would assume that those against "pop-up" hides actually own and have used them before using the term carp??.

I personally prefer poles and nets which I use regularly but.......I own and occasionally use my "pop-up" hide which has no blind spot any more than a traditional hide.

People will always walk/ramble/horseride/cycle where they shouldn't and it is our responsibility to ensure we are aware of our surroundings when we are using weapons, to claim that new products are more dangerous than some of the traditional hides I have seen built is frankly ludicrous

Thanks in advance

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One would assume that those against "pop-up" hides actually own and have used them before using the term carp??.

I personally prefer poles and nets which I use regularly but.......I own and occasionally use my "pop-up" hide which has no blind spot any more than a traditional hide.

People will always walk/ramble/horseride/cycle where they shouldn't and it is our responsibility to ensure we are aware of our surroundings when we are using weapons, to claim that new products are more dangerous than some of the traditional hides I have seen built is frankly ludicrous

Thanks in advance

Can you post a picture of your pop-up hide? As a picture paints a thousand words....

The pigeon shooters who regularly post on here and in the magazine's use poles and nets combined with a local back ground...

bales, telegraph poles, hedges, ditch etc.....

Use what you like, however from what I have seen of them, they would not suit a lot of pigeon shooters I know for a few reasons....

 

TEH

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One would assume that those against "pop-up" hides actually own and have used them before using the term carp??.

I personally prefer poles and nets which I use regularly but.......I own and occasionally use my "pop-up" hide which has no blind spot any more than a traditional hide.

People will always walk/ramble/horseride/cycle where they shouldn't and it is our responsibility to ensure we are aware of our surroundings when we are using weapons, to claim that new products are more dangerous than some of the traditional hides I have seen built is frankly ludicrous

Thanks in advance

I agree

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