Boblees1 Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Hi Folks, could anyone give me an idea of value (if any) for a couple of items I want rid of ? 1 a Beretta 1915 pistol ( with deactivation certificate ). 1 a Valtro air cartridge pistol with 12 cartridges and recharging pump. I have no idea what these are worth so would be grateful for any advice you could give me. Many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 I thought air cartridge pistols were prohibited weapons now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) The ban does not apply to weapons that use a CO2 bulb system because CO2 bulbs do not contain a projectile and are not therefore completely self-contained Edited October 19, 2014 by 39TDS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boblees1 Posted October 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 The ban does not apply to weapons that use a CO2 bulb system because CO2 bulbs do not contain a projectile and are not therefore completely self-contained It uses cartridges that are refilled by a hand operated pump ( or a divers air cylinder ) never tried that though !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 The ban does not apply to weapons that use a CO2 bulb system because CO2 bulbs do not contain a projectile and are not therefore completely self-contained Yes but as he mentions the cartridges have a recharging pump I would assume that the pistol uses TAC cartridges , which makes it illegal unless entered on a FAC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boblees1 Posted October 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 I thought air cartridge pistols were prohibited weapons now. If these things are banned how do I get rid of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) It uses cartridges that are refilled by a hand operated pump ( or a divers air cylinder ) never tried that though !!! If its not on FAC get it to the bottom of the nearest river !! There was a amnesty period several years ago when the should have been handed in or put on a FAC Edited October 19, 2014 by fenboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boblees1 Posted October 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 If its not on FAC get it to the bottom of the nearest river !! There was a amnesty period several years ago when the should have been handed in or put on a FAC Thanks for the advice guys. It looks like it is going for a swim !!! Seems a little OTT to ban these things as I could cause more damage with a decent catapult . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 The trouble was the guns were easy to convert to firing live ammunition and criminals took advantage of that fact . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 If these things are banned how do I get rid of it Take it in to an RFD. He will take it in ,or take it to your local cop shop . Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Take it in to an RFD. He will take it in ,or take it to your local cop shop . Harnser +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Yes I would agree thats pehaps more sensible than throwing it in the local river Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Thanks for the advice guys. It looks like it is going for a swim !!! Seems a little OTT to ban these things as I could cause more damage with a decent catapult . Put an angle grinder through it, then off to the RFD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 If your near me your welcome to drop it off, I rather deal with it than see it chucked in a river. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boblees1 Posted October 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 +1 Cop shop close by, so it is going there tomorrow. Thanks for all the advice. What about the Beretta 1915 ? is that worth trying to sell or is that a disposal job as well ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Take it in to an RFD. He will take it in ,or take it to your local cop shop . Harnser Not the cop shop!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Unless your RFD is Section 5 he can not take a prohibited arm . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Not the cop shop!! 25.2. No obstacle should be placed in the way of a person who wants to surrender firearms or ammunition to the police. Surrender might suggest illegal possession although this may not always be the case. Persons anxious to dispose of firearms and ammunition should be allowed to hand them in at a police station. Disposal might suggest unwanted/unusable firearms held on certificate although it is lawful to dispose of these through an RFD and owners should be encouraged to take this course to save police resources and realise the value of their items, particularly if they are of an historic or heritage nature. Firearms should either be disposed of through the police, or to an RFD The Home Office document is very clear in this respect. Disposing of illegal weapons through official channels, where they can be definitely taken out of circulation, is far preferable to dropping them in a river, pool, flooded quarry, etc. In addition, the police are not even allowed to ask for the details of the person disposing of the items, unless they have good cause to suspect that the firearms have been used in crime. They may 'discreetly questioned with a view to establishing its history' (section 25.6) but 'unless circumstances exist to give serious cause for concern ... the person handing it in should not be pressed' ( also 25.6) Print off section 25 of the Home office book, it might just save you some time. But be absolutely clear, the police cannot demand your identity when you hand it it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Prawn Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 I had my Brocock way after the ban due to ignorance of the change in legal status, dropped it into the police, apart from them giving me a good stare when I said I had a rifle in the bin bags under my arm they asked no questions and I told no lies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Before you dispose of it can you take a pic for posterity? Shame you werent crossing the channel or posting it as they are ok over here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye18 Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 Your de act pistol will sell all day long!especially if its a pre 95 old spec de act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boblees1 Posted October 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 Your de act pistol will sell all day long!especially if its a pre 95 old spec de act. Certificate dated 21/06/1996 (SPEC 'A') if that means anything to you ( I have no idea at all about these things ) Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urx Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 I'd be interested in the magazine tacs and and springs clips pins etc you strip off the valtro before surrender/destruction. I've got one on ticket and a few parts wouldn't hurt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye18 Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 If you can still strip and dry fire the beretta then its old spec but if the slide is welded and you cant do anything with it its new spec so will fetch less money.have a look on a few uk militaria dealers web sites and youll soon get an idea what itll be worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye18 Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 Id say youd be looking at 100 to 200 depending on which spec it is.i used to deal in de acts but ive never sold one of those or even seen one at an arms fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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