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Hi folks.

 

I'm wondering what the going rate of a pigeon roost shooting trip is nowadays. Say if there was an opportunity of roost shooting from 2pm onwards until dark, as much shooting as you have a chance at (pigeons, corvids), what would be a reasonable price? There is always the chance of a poor show in terms of numbers or lack of wind bringing birds in range etc but that is the nature of the sport. Is there a demand for this?

Where do hosts stand in terms of insurance if all paying guests have their own insurance?

 

Henry

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Hi harnser,

 

I have no plans to charge but I know people that do. I currently take four friends roost shooting/duck shooting/game shooting. And take others ferreting/Lamping etc. All free of charge. Just for a social. I want to know what is viewed as a rip off and how would it stand in a legal setting.

What makes it contentious? Because they're pests? Or because no one owns them?

Henry

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The problems start when money changes hands. People expect something for their folding, and quite often, the expectations are out of whack with the amount of money that has changed hands.

People will grumble about poor days/drives, they will grumble about access points, lugging decoys, carrying dead birds back to the cars, hides, hide locations, etc. If shots have been thin on the ground, they will hint/expect you to provide alternative days, etc, all on your own time.

 

Next, legally, if you are charging, then you need to ensure that your insurance covers you, bearing in mind you are providing a commercial service, not just 'hobby' shooting, and ensure that the person you are taking out has adequate cover too. You also need to ensure that the landowner (if not you) is OK with paid guns being out there - ideally, get it in writing - and the landowner may well expect a portion of the cash too. After all, if it wasn't for his land, then you wouldn't be getting a penny, OR any shooting.

Lastly, if you currently provide pest control shooting for the landowner for free, then you may well find that the paid guns you take out might try to cut out the middleman, and go directly to the landowner, offering cash for shooting permissions. So losing your permissions is a risk too.

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Part of my job is taking people out shooting/stalking etc aswell as day to day keeper dutys the problem comes when bookings are taken and there is nothing about the actual amount you are paying to shoot is very small most of the money goes to paying the guide fuel etc there was a time when letting a bit of pigeon shooting gave the keeper a bit of pocket money but since most game shoots and farms are run from offices in the citys they want to make money from everything including vermin/pest control but without shoots paying for therselfs they would be finished plus alot of people get a chance to shoot land they never would

If its just to cover your fuel/time and the land owner doesnt want there share £5- £15 a gun for a roost is fair depending on bird traffic

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It's like everything I guess supply and demand

I love shooting but have no ground to call my own so I joined a local wildfowling club and get taken out by guys I know who have land to shoot over

If I want more shooting I have to pay for it to be honest as simple as that

Land down here is hard to come by not that I have given up searching

Next season I'm looking at trying to become a member in a couple more wildfowling shooting clubs which may open up more opportunities for me

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Ye it's a bloody shame we can't make more land. Every acre for miles around me has people shooting on it of some type of other. I know people who charge £25 per person per roost shoot. They have 8 guns in 3 woods and other woods are covered by ppl who have permission on other land. Bags range from 5-30 per person. Normally it's averaging ten each of they can shoot. Judging by shots I think more are missed than shot.

I wondered if someone had an accident then would the land owner/host be liable even if the gun had his own cover?

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