apache Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 It seems the police clear land up to the calibre requested. To me this seems madness - clearing land up to .222 and then having to look again if you change for a 22-250! You need permission to shoot land upon renewal, but that doesn't have to be given in writing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flynny Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 If a person has the above certificate, and can only use a particular caliber rifle on 'land that has been approved' etc, could he use that caliber on other land, in company with someone who has an 'open' certificate? I have open ticket on all my rifles, my bro in law doesn't/ didn't have ( he does now) he wanted to come with me on my perm with his 17 hmr, ( my land is cleared up to 30 cal) . I phoned my / his FLO , who told us to crack on. Whether or not this was because the land is cleared for 30 cal, or because I have open ticket, I don't know, Good question , Ring flo to confirm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 It seems the police clear land up to the calibre requested. To me this seems madness - clearing land up to .222 and then having to look again if you change for a 22-250! You need permission to shoot land upon renewal, but that doesn't have to be given in writing. think they clear to a certain calibre ie .22 cf or .243 etc i could be wrong but are .222 and 22-250 both .22c/f rifles .224 bullets colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 They use the fact that the .17hmr is a smaller calibre as when land is cleared it is usually cleared upto a certian calibre. Indeed, but I would have thought the point of 'clearing land' is due to safety concerns with regards to the ballistics of the caliber used. If the HMR has higher energy and range than a .22lr then the exercise seems moot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumpy69 Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 Can anyone give a situation where it is safe to use a 222 but not a 30-06? Surely a safe shot is a safe shot? Or is this just for the feo's to know their reasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 before I had an open ticket we had land cleared for.17hmr but they wouldnt allow .22 so don't assume its cleared below the calibre you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 before I had an open ticket we had land cleared for.17hmr but they wouldnt allow .22 so don't assume its cleared below the calibre you have. ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 ?? why do you put this up ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 why do you put this up ? Because .22 > .17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 a .22 is a bigger calibre than a .17hmr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew f Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 If a person has the above certificate, and can only use a particular caliber rifle on 'land that has been approved' etc, could he use that caliber on other land, in company with someone who has an 'open' certificate? Grey area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 Not grey in any way, shape or form. If the person has a certificate stating that the land must be cleared by the police, then it is a firearms offence shooting there if the land has not been cleared by the police. Crystal clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1steele Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Indeed, but I would have thought the point of 'clearing land' is due to safety concerns with regards to the ballistics of the caliber used. If the HMR has higher energy and range than a .22lr then the exercise seems moot. True enough but thats the way they work. .204 ruger has higher energy etc than the larger calibre .22 hornet but if they would only allow upto .20 calbre you wouldn't be allowed to use the .22 hornet. As Stumpy69 has already said, is there a safe shot for one calibre and not another? I pesonally wouldn't take a shot with a rimfire that I deemed too unsafe for a larger calibre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 I got land passed for my 243 and i tried to get a 308 but they wouldnt give me the 308 saying the land was only passed for a 243 i said a 243 wont go through a back stop and a 308 would he said he dont make the rules its nonsence you got some people making up rules for shooters who dont have a clue about shooting not all but some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydi73 Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 I think some people are missreading the title you can use your rifle on any land that has been passed for your calliber your mate who has got an open ticket he deems the land to be safe to shoot his rifle on he dosent need land to have been passed by the police but he cant deem the land safe for you to shoot on This makes much more sense and think it answer the question......it does for me anyway as I w as getting lost...Well explained Rim Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 This makes much more sense and think it answer the question......it does for me anyway as I w as getting lost...Well explained Rim Firethink you will find the very 1st reply answered the question the rest is were the thread gets slightly side tracacked Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Funker Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 think you will find the very 1st reply answered the question the rest is were the thread gets slightly side tracacked Colin I was thinking the same, talk about over complicating one of the easier things to understand about firearms licensing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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