Jump to content

Powers of a FEO


kaunda
 Share

Recommended Posts

They may not have any right to enter if you refuse and I doubt they could insist on searching your property. The right to sieze would go with their job I would think.but also if they wanted to get in bad enough I doubt it would be to much trouble to get a warrant especially as the reason would be firearm related. I would say that being awkward with your fao would lead to nothing but problems for you.atb

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I would co-operate with an FEO, just as if he had "Powers of Constable". Why would anyone not do so?

Because he is not a constable, and would need to return with one to execute those powers... I do believe those are the rules and the rules must be there for a reason?

 

 

http://www.findlaw.co.uk/law/criminal/your_rights/500466.html

 

When officers do not need a warrant

A police officer does not need to apply for a warrant when entering and searching a premises under Section 17 of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984. A police officer is able to do this in the following circumstances:

  • When a warrant for arrest has been issued and the police officer has reasonable grounds to believe the individual is on the property.
  • To arrest an individual for a sufficiently serious crime.
  • To recapture any individual who is unlawfully at large.
  • To save an individual’s life or prevent serious damage to a person or property.
In addition to the right to enter and search a premises, the police also have a general right to seize items when they are ‘lawfully on a premises’. A police officer is deemed to be lawfully on the premises if they are there with the consent of the occupier or are searching the property with a warrant under section 8, or without a warrant under section 17.

 

Edited by HDAV
Link to comment
Share on other sites

HDAV - I agree that there must be a reason, but failure to co-operate would only lead to an escalation.

Indeed, however there are limits to why and when the police can enter your home. For good reason and there should be no fear of consequence for those who don't want them turning up unannounced.

 

The police have the right to search your property and seize any items that are linked with a crime, but they must do so lawfully. Any search which is not done lawfully will be in breach of Article 8 of the Human Rights Act which protects a suspect’s right to respect for his private and family life. The police must therefore ensure any attempts to search property and seize goods are reasonably necessary and proportionate to the circumstances involved at that time.[/size]

Edited by HDAV
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Its interesting that some would cooperate even if the FEO was overstepping the mark, in case the FEO might make things difficult for them. Even if the person was within their rights to refuse entry or similar. Even though the police or FEO would have no legal reason make things difficult for the person. Maybe that wouldn't be the case if the shooting organisations and individuals made the police act within their powers and stopped running scared.

Edited by ordnance
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I would co-operate with an FEO, just as if he had "Powers of Constable". Why would anyone not do so?

Because he holds no warrant card and has as much powers as you and I.why would you blindly obey someone with absolutly no more power than yourself?,and yes it is true he can speak to people who will have a warrant card and will then do what they are allowed to under law,but to blindly obey someone with no powers of the crown is foolish.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I can't recall a single case of a fao overstepping the mark as has been suggested. Maybe asked for cabinet to be sited in a better position. An alarm fitted or window locks that type of thing but they are only sensible security suggestions. Who decides what is unreasonable. I believe it unreasonable to be charged over.£400 a year to tax one of my cars but there you go.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

X-Men type powers or legal powers while in pursuit of their job?

 

If the latter i would guess they have as much power as a serving cop due to being employed by the crown. If for example they discovered an illegally held firearm i think they would have the right to take it temporarily into their possesion.

Ambulance workers and PCSO's are employed by the crown, and they can't take my guns either.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Because he holds no warrant card and has as much powers as you and I.why would you blindly obey someone with absolutly no more power than yourself?,and yes it is true he can speak to people who will have a warrant card and will then do what they are allowed to under law,but to blindly obey someone with no powers of the crown is foolish.

Magestrate court judges will always refuse to show their oath of office when asked for whatever reason yet people still obey them, for all we know they could be the plumber or cleaner ? Would you obey somebody who told you they were a police officer and refused to show you proof? We would all do it in a court

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

I can't recall a single case of a fao overstepping the mark as has been suggested.

I would call an FEO calling at someones house unannounced and questioning a family member, or asking to get in to check the firearms if the firearms owner is not there. Especially if the person they ask in under 18.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Magestrate court judges will always refuse to show their oath of office when asked for whatever reason yet people still obey them, for all we know they could be the plumber or cleaner ? Would you obey somebody who told you they were a police officer and refused to show you proof? We would all do it in a court

Magistrates are appointed and swear an oath,they have limited powers as denotes their position in the courts system,and it is quite easy to check who is or isn't a magistrate.

let's not go down the road of FMOTL arguments as they are flawed arguments of the barking mad brigade.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
 Share

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...