Steve72 Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 Hi, My father-in-law, has declared war on the mice in his aviaries. He is using a crossman air rifle. He has mentioned to me that it would be easier if he had a multi shot pistol because he is in confined space. With Xmas approaching I would like to treat him. What would you guys recomend entry level and budget. Last question would a BB at a range of six feet be adequate or am I best with pellets. Apologies if suggesting bb's is unsuitable but I have no experience with pistols. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 I think bb's are completely unsuitable, as are most air pistols. A single shot idea might be a Crossman 2240, or if you want to push the boat out an HW45. Can't think of any multi shots I could recommend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 HAs he got an FAC? 9mm shot pistol (rimfire would be better) https://www.cityoflondon.police.uk/advice-and-support/licensing-and-permits/firearms-licensing/Pages/Exceptions.aspx Shot PistolsPeople who need shot pistols in .410 or 9mm rim-fire for shooting rats and other vermin in confined spaces can buy, possess and sell them if they have a police firearm certificate which allows them to do so. The certificate must specify that the shot pistol is only to be used for shooting vermin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW682 Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 http://www.southyorkshireairguns.co.uk/brocock-atomic-super-6-air-pistol-988-p.asp Not exactly cheap, but this is a multishot PCP pistol which appears to be close to full power (max 6 ft.lb for a pistol). I have no idea what they are like though, so google some reviews or get comments off here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 Crosman 1377. Pump it to just enough, 4-5 pumps would be plenty. U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenduri Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 There aren't really any suitable multi-shot pistols for ratting as most that are multi-shot will push about 2ft lbs which just isn't enough. Webley Alecto will push 5.5ftlbs on 3 pumps but single shot, plus you wont have any recoil as with the HW 45 which will also push about 5.5 ftlbs but is a springer. Also if he gets a later model Alecto he can screw on a moderator with a 1/2 inch unf adapter so he isn't bothering the neighbors or the birds. Downside is the cost of the Alecto so one of the cheaper Crosmans may be more suitable. A Rat Catcher might be suitable as well as its small, light and cheap but again single shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 Semi auto CO2 rifle http://www.justairguns.co.uk/product/9/Air-Rifles/56/Weihrauch-HW97/300/1077-CO2-REPEATER-.177 The umerax 586 pistol may do it but as with all CO2 power varies a lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 Don't shoot me down too quickly but at 6 feet I would think any co2 knocking out 2ftlbs would do nicely on mice, like the Beretta or whatever. You only need 4 to knock off a rabbit so why won't 2 kill a mouse humanly. If all the 50+ yard head shot all day .177 guys are to be believed then 2 ft lbs are practically over powered in comparrison. An hw45 is very nice though and any excuse to acquire one should be sought out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Steve72 Posted November 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Thanks for the replays guys. Food for thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) Crossman 2240,although its a single shot I reckon its as close to full power as you will get in a pistol BB Problem with pistols,they are much more difficult to obtain consistent and accurate shots Edited November 25, 2014 by Bluebarrels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 I soon got rid of my 2240 but my 1377 stays which I got after I got rid of the hw45 in the photo. I have photos of the 1377 but some here would have kittens lol U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southeastpete Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Let's see the 1377 please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Let's see the 1377 please. And get a flaming from the misery brigade, na. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southeastpete Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 They going to moan about something. The rest of us just ignore them UD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Pete made me do it!! What's the bike Pete? U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southeastpete Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Oh I see now, don't worry, everyone who reads your posts will know how good your field craft is, and your patience. Bet you crept up on that one! The bike is a cbr600rr in Movistar colours. I've since had a marvellous buell x1 and now have an rxs100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 I had an xb once, vtwin man me. Ducatis, Aprilias, Guzzis and then the sv's. There was two Yam trx years ago. That CBR has to many cylinders lol. Yes, I get very close. A rabbit warren on a bank side under mature hawthorn and knettle. I cut a path I can take a step at a time through, usually a rabbit hops out a hole a few yards away. With face covered it takes ages to bring to bear and often get busted. Not been for a while as the numbers were down. Very challenging and blooming hard! Must be nuts. I practice for a week with it first and only go when a golf ball size target can be hit every time at ten or so yards. A mouse in a shed is a sinch, done it! U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southeastpete Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 I think I'll go back to three cylinders next... Sounds like fun on the rabbits! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricko Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Set traps instead?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southeastpete Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Less fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 The Brocock Atomic is a full 5.6 ft lb multishot pistol that was developed to help despatch trapped mink! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalmac Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Pete made me do it!! What's the bike Pete? U. Nice, That's the thing U, people will often get all upset over certain things - however unless the full situation is known, it's hard to pass judgement and to know you have stalked up to close enough for a clean kill with a handgun I think it is very admirable. I certainly don't have that sort of patience in a woodland where noises are all too easy to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjimlad Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 A mouse takes very little to kill it at close range. I have bopped them cleanly with one pump of a Sheridan Bluestreak at under 5 yards. A lead pellet in the noggin will cleanly dispatch it. I would have no hesitation in using my S&W 586 revolver indoors on a mouse at up to say 10 feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 An air pistol is a tool, like any other that we may use, it can be used for pest control, in certain circumstances, and on certain quarry. Having seen various pictures and posts by Underdog, they show that his fieldcraft is absolutely top-class. I think if anyone did have issues, it would be with the possibility that less capable people might see it and think "Well, he does it, so it's ok for me to do it too". I'll finish by saying this : nice going, Underdog. Once again, showing just how important patience and skill are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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