Cookie69 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Hi the keeper on the syndicate I beat on has shown an interest in my dog as a stud for his bitch. This may happen some time next year? My dog is 16mnths old, and I would like to know how I go about setting my dog up For any of the relevant health checks? And if I need a stud book??? Please forgive my ignorance but I have never done this before but I want to be responsible. Thanks Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) Fair dos to you Paul. What breed is he as there are slightly different tests and test companies for different breeds. Not sure what you mean by a stud book. Is he KC reg? Edited November 25, 2014 by bigbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie69 Posted November 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Fair dos to you Paul. What breed is he as there are slightly different tests and test companies for different breeds. Not sure what you mean by a stud book. Is he KC reg? Hi thanks big bird Yes he is KC reg he is a cocker spaniel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 What kind of dog is it? As bigbird has said there are different health tests for different breeds and you can go over the top in my view. Other thing to consider is the keepers bitch health tested? You will get a stud book number if he gets an award at a trial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie69 Posted November 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) What kind of dog is it? As bigbird has said there are different health tests for different breeds and you can go over the top in my view. Other thing to consider is the keepers bitch health tested? You will get a stud book number if he gets an award at a trial. Ok thanks I'll ask him that question Edited November 25, 2014 by Cookie69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 The dog will know what to do from then on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie69 Posted November 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 The dog will know what to do from then on... Haha let's hope so (-: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) I have health tested our springers for PRA Cord1 (an eye condition) and fuco (very rare but fatal) so have an idea what's involved. It's worth checking on mykc to see if any relatives have been tested for these conditions - if so it can give a good idea of your dog is a carrier or not. If not then if you want to, you can pay for the tests. I think the company is 'Optigen' for cockers but I'm not sure. Hips, elbows, BVA (eye test usually done annually) can be done. However as WGD has said, it's very easy to get hung up on health tests. It's a huge subject with lots of pros and cons, especially if you don't get the result you're hoping for which happened to me with 2 out of the four dogs I had tested who came back carriers for PRA. As they were to be detection dogs happily it wasn't any issue at all. Note: not sure if cocker results automatically go to the KC like springers do with results from the AHT Edited November 25, 2014 by bigbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie69 Posted November 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 WGD and I have both health tested our springers for PRA Cord1 (an eye condition) and fuco (very rare but fatal) so we have an idea what's involved. It's worth checking on mykc to see if any relatives have been tested for these conditions - if so it can give a good idea of your dog is a carrier or not. If not then if you want to, you can pay for the tests. I think the company is 'Optigen' for cockers but I'm not sure. Hips, elbows, BVA (eye test usually done annually) can be done. However as WGD has said, it's very easy to get hung up on health tests. It's a huge subject with lots of pros and cons, especially if you don't get the result you're hoping for which happened to me with 2 out of the four dogs I had tested who came back carriers for PRA. As they were to be detection dogs happily it wasn't any issue at all. Note: not sure if cocker results automatically go to the KC like springers do with results from the AHT Thank you very helpful I'll look into this Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Ali - are the health tests for springers and cockers the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Think cockers are blood tests and have to be sent to a company in the US or there's one in France. Think the US one won't / can't test European samples any more, don't know why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Also check the pedigree first to make sure the lines are suitable, not to close. I thought ur hips/elbows was more a problem in larger breeds, usually labs. Think Optigen do the genetic tests to see if ur dog is carrying specific genes, whereas ur BVA tests the eye's anually to see if showing any symptoms (so a dog may carry a gene but not show up in the anual eye check) Think was 35quid last time i had it done, but again thought was more a lab thing. Must admit i didnae think there was much health testing in cockers commonly done, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 But yes, the conditions tested for are the same, I'm pretty sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Also check the pedigree first to make sure the lines are suitable, not to close Always check the COI ( inbreeding coefficient) this is easily done on the Mate Select on the KC website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie69 Posted November 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Thanks all I have signed up to MYKC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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