DD14 Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 morning everyone, New to PW and relatively new to airgun hunting I have a AA S410 .177 and a BSA R10 MK2 .22 I have got a permission on a farm but I think it must be the only farm without rabbits!!! Not seen one! Seen Hares, Foxes, squirrels but no rabbits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DD14 Posted December 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Thank you to those who welcomed me to the site! Does anyone have any tips to see if there are rabbits at the farm? There is a large population of buzzards and I've also seen foxes so that might be the reason they stay underground until night? But I'm not seeing and runs or droppings. Surely I can't be that unlucky to be given permission on the only farm in Worcestershire to have no rabbits! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED BEARD Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Get out with the lamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD14 Posted December 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Cheers Red Beard! I will try tomorrow. Getting a lamp tomorrow to mount on top of the sites! Like I said mate I'm relatively new to this. I used to shoot as a kid but I've got back into it now and want to do it properly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DD14 Posted December 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Evening all! Been out with a lamp tonight and see a few rabbits.. Can anyone recommend a scope mount lamp? Also is there a draft letter about to ask land owners for permission? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 (edited) Hiya and welcome to the mad house. Check for scat and runs in the undergrowth. If it's raining they tend to stay underground in the warmth more. Your problem is to get within 30 to 40yds. Make sure you zero your rifle every time you go out and remember a clean kill shot is between the eye and the ear. The rabbit's brain ain't too large so a clean kill is important. Make sure you can shoot polo mints regularly at 30 - 40yds (extra strong mints are OK). Rabbits come out around dusk and dawn if there are lots of predators about. You may well find that you can take one and the lot disappear for the next half hour or so. You will need to be prepared to move. Go out in the daylight and sus out an ambush point about 35yds from the burrows. Get there before they are out and get to your ambush point. It's more important to be still rather than be camoed up to the eyeballs. Once you have shot one don't be tempted to get up immediately to recover it but on the other hand don't leave it too long. I have had a fox nick my kill from me before I got to it. If you are stalking them you will need to move slowly and be prepared to stop when one raises up to check for any danger. Stay still and wait. Slowly, slowly catchie monkey. They may be vermin but they ain't daft. Walk slowly with light feet as they can feel movement through the earth. All movements should be slow. There are loads of lamps on the market. The Clulights are supposed to be good. Personally I use a Tracer Max Pro lamp but I have it fixed to my rimfire. Great out to 100 plus yds. Either way try to get one with a brightness control on it. Start off dim and gradually bring it up. Hope this helps. Best of luck and get the cooker on the go. Dave. Edited December 5, 2014 by Uncle Albert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 (edited) I think there is a sample letter on the BASC web site. If not just write one and get the land owner to sign it. "This is to confirm that the following person: Forename Surname of Address line 1 Address line 2 Address line 3 Postcode Has my permission to shoot vermin on my land, being Farm name of Address line 1 Address line 2 Address line 3 Postcode The permission holder is insured for public liability through BASC and I have seen his membership details Signature of land owner: _________________________________ Phone number: __________________________ Print landowner's name: __________________________________ Signature of permission holder: _____________________________ Phone number: _________________________ Print Permission holder's name: ________________________________" Make sure you carry this on you when shooting and make sure you get insured through BASC, Countryside Alliance or any other body that gives you public liability. Edited December 5, 2014 by Uncle Albert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye18 Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 Ay up fella!welcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saggy61 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Hi ya DD14 welcome to PW. In my opinion you will get many knockbacks when in search for perms so be willing to take them on the chin, you will also have a better chance to speak to the land owner face to face as a lot of farmers ect will possibly just bin any letters sent out to them as they haven't got the first impression of the person asking to roam around on there land with a gun. by all means have the perm slip with you as if you do get more land its always nice to have paperwork in hand. Even if they say no to your face be polite and say thanks for there time, I have had some business cards made up so every farm ect I visit I leave them a card and ask them to keep me in mind if there current shooters vanish or if they have a sudden attack of vermin. As Albert has said about the lamp it is also a good idea to have a lamp with some different lens filters as rabbits will get used to normal lamp very quickly so a red and amber filter will be a good option to have. Or even go to the next level and have a look at a night vision setup, you can make a very good DIY setup for very little money these days all you need is a bit of research and Blue Peter skills. Atb Saggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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