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Atom? The latest review on the nv forum isn't exactly glowing.I struggle to see how any digi add on can do away with brightness and contrast settings and still be useful. Speaking for myself I'm always having to fiddle with one or both to achieve the best picture at various ranges?

 

Dimming the screen only doesn't help either, you actually need to find the best balance between brightness and contrast as well as fiddling with the illuminator focus and brightness to achieve the best from either close work sub 40 yards and distant work plus 200.

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Atom? The latest review on the nv forum isn't exactly glowing.I struggle to see how any digi add on can do away with brightness and contrast sosettings and still be useful. Speaking for myself I'm always having to fiddle with one or both to achieve the best picture at various ranges?

yep bit of a carp response on nv forum but its early days yet,

not holding me breath though :no:

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  • 2 weeks later...

I may be able to arrange something sooner. I'm currently refining the outer case design in ABS so I can do away with the cojoined ABS project boxes. The illuminator is done though, nice, simple, light push/pull 66mm IR torch - although many on the nvuk forum think I'm just imagining all this up.

:no::no::good:

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You need to put pics up.

 

 

I don't really want to if I'm honest. There's little to gain by sharing. The two people that have one from me already (not forum members anywhere) are more than impressed with it and very happy. Once I have the main body ready I'm going to be reworking the innards out of my old units into the new unit, but let's be honest, I'm unlikely to go into mass production. It'll be a couple of handfuls of units, mainly to get the investment back, then a line drawn on the whole add-on thing. I honestly don't think I'm going to be buying anything better anytime soon from what I've seen released.

 

Next project is a compact spotter, something thru eye with a simple single button and a fixed focal length, I want it the same size as a rangefinder, no bigger, it needs to fit in a pocket.

 

I did post some video a while back, although not with this IR torch, I think I was using a x-searcher back then.

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Next project is a compact spotter, something thru eye with a simple single button and a fixed focal length, I want it the same size as a rangefinder, no bigger, it needs to fit in a pocket.

 

I'm working on exactly the same thing, it is compact but I'm struggling to get the size down to where I would like it due to the diameter of the torch head and lens going side by side. I could make one 43x43x100 mm with a weaver rail for torch but I wanted an all in one unit. I'd be interested to see yours when its done.

 

I'm surprised you haven't gone down the scopeless route, I've not looked back since getting my rig finished. :good:

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That's not too shabby a size Falcon, but yes, torch on the inside is the key, or rather, no torch, just a led and lens with some form of heat sink.

 

As for scope-less route, I struggle to see the point of them. You tie a rifle up to a dedicated scope-less rig with less than great optics (or none) in the daytime or isn't that the case?

 

As I see it, If you want a super dedicated digi then buy a Drone Pro as they don't come much better; I wanted something I can chuck on my day rifles when I use them at night, the only real compromise is in using a PA adjustable scope which is no real pain once you get used to it as long as you only buy scopes with a side parallax.

 

I'm getting plus 400 yards easy with an add-on at up to x10-x12 mag (depending on scope) and 500 plus on lower mags like x8-x6 and can just as easily adjust back down to sub 40 yards in a second or two. With a 66m illuminator that is super compact and lighter than a t20 with a battery in it why would I want anything else (other than eye relief of course, but I can live with an additional 3" of eye relief)

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Granted, the day image isn't anywhere like a optical scope but it's horses for courses I suppose and, as I have a day rifle and night rifle, scopeless works for me. The advantages are size, weight, comfort in use due to normal eye releif and the brilliant low light ability that allows it to be used without IR some of the time - particularly dawn and dusk. The disadvantage is lack of zoom - mine is fixed at around x6 so fine for rabbits.

 

The drone pro is hard to beat but at a price of £1600 it costs about £1300 more than my rifle, nv scope and illuminator cost together. I can 'see' out to 400 yards with a t20 but frankly that kind of academic as range isnt as much an issue as most of my spotting is only done out to 200 yards max anyway.

 

I'll post pics of my spotter and rig when it is done, if anyone is interested.

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You managed to get two identical rifles, one for day and one for night past the guv'nor Falcon? Hats off to you! I'm pretty good at getting stuff through the door on the quiet but I don't think I could manage that one (usually relying on the rub it with mud and stating 'I've had that ages' approach). Maybe that's why I see add-ons as the way forward, necessity being the mother of invention and all that.

 

While we're on the subject of DIY builds, can anyone explain the thinking behind using a prism? As far as I can see, other than costing more and being more complex, it achieves very little else, it certainly doesn't seem to shorten eye relief from what I've seen but the bods over on the nvuk site seem mad for it. Weird.. :crazy:

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Add ons work for some, personally I sit out regularly before dusk for foxes and then just put the add on on and sit for as long as I can no interruptions. Also if you have the option of shooting deer as well then it's a bit questionable using a scope that can be used at night

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You managed to get two identical rifles, one for day and one for night past the guv'nor Falcon? Hats off to you! I'm pretty good at getting stuff through the door on the quiet but I don't think I could manage that one (usually relying on the rub it with mud and stating 'I've had that ages' approach). Maybe that's why I see add-ons as the way forward, necessity being the mother of invention and all that.

 

While we're on the subject of DIY builds, can anyone explain the thinking behind using a prism? As far as I can see, other than costing more and being more complex, it achieves very little else, it certainly doesn't seem to shorten eye relief from what I've seen but the bods over on the nvuk site seem mad for it. Weird.. :crazy:

:lol: It was all above board, kinda, as I bought an air rifle for £120 and sold it a week later for £340. So the £200 I spent on my night rifle was all from the profit (OK, minus 20% commission for the sale, postage and a scope for the new one, but those are just side issues, honest).

 

I think the prism is to remove some of the eye relief from the scope to camera and then allow a near eye viewer to be placed pretty much were the camera would otherwise have been. I'm not sure how much you gain in reality but even an inch will make shooting from the shoulder slightly more comfortable. Having said that, the extra glass will probably loose a little definition and range.

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Ah, complex accounting to bewilder and befuddle then, good work.

 

I get the idea behind the prism, it's just, ummm, it doesn't actually seem to achieve what they're after. In my humble opinion, the best way to shorten eye relief, without requiring any additional prisms, is to almost place the camera and near-eye viewer back to back, as far back in the add-on as possible. When I look inside these prism builds the space taken up by the prism appears to be greater than the space taken up by a closely arranged camera module (pcb mount) and viewer.

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