roostshooter1 Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 Hi guys im thinking of applying for a variation on my fac for an airgun but not sure what sort of power to put down ie 30flb or 40flb or whether you just write fac airgun and you can buy one whatever power you like any info would be much appreciated cheers guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 All you put down is the calibre, 22 being the most popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambone Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 Just request FAC air and state calibre required (don't forget mod) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roostshooter1 Posted December 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 So if i just put down .22 and get granted i could go on and buy a 60 ftlb airgun no problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambone Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 Not been asked about ftlb when mine have been granted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roostshooter1 Posted December 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 Brilliant thanks very much for the info i will get my paper work written up and sent in ready for the new year many thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Brilliant thanks very much for the info i will get my paper work written up and sent in ready for the new year many thanks guys don't forget as quoted above ,,not to forget to put moderator down as well and yes once granted you can get whatever you want,,even the 303 Daystate wolverine running at 100ftlb hope you get it and Enjoy atb Evo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roostshooter1 Posted December 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Holy hell 100 ftlb 303 that will be a rabbit bashing monster i will put moderator down seperately same as my rifles Does anybody currently use an fac theoben rapid and how do they find it for 60 70 yard rabbits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambone Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Mine is a theoben rapid in .20 running @ about 18ftlbs, they are popular for FAC because of the high pellet count. I rarely use it for rabbits at 60 / 70 yards as I think you are better off with a rimfire at those sort of distances. Where the FAC air comes into its own is where a potential rimfire ricochet could damage animals / property and for shooting into trees where you would not use a rimfire. No doubt there are people on here who use FAC air at those distances, possibly running their air rifles @ higher ftlbs than I do so I hope you get some more oppinions / replys to this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycho Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 (edited) I use a Daystate mvt adjusts from 500fps-1299fps at the pull of the trigger and a flick of a switch great an fac rifle is a great rifle to use between a .25 rat rifle at sub 12 to a .17hmr will always have a place in my safe great for rabbits at up to 60 yard need 3 inch of holdover at 70 compared to 1 at 60 with a 53 yard zero after 70 drops like a stone your best bet is a .22 at 30lb , 30 is good for air conservation when using air arms 15.9 grain which proves to be a good fac pellet good hitting power I adjust mine to 40lb when using bisley magnums at 40 the trajectory is the same as the air arms at 30 as mentioned the fac rifle is good for shots you could not take with a rimfire Edited December 21, 2014 by psycho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFC Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 I have one permission where, when I was on closed ticket, I was only allowed FAC air. If I need to sort Squirrels in the woods during the Pheasant season it's the ideal rifle without causing a disturbance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Does anybody currently use an fac theoben rapid and how do they find it for 60 70 yard rabbits Used to, 33ftlb rabbit's at 70+ no problem, with anything practice practice practice on paper at various range's firstly, don't forget wind is your biggest enemy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Holy hell 100 ftlb 303 that will be a rabbit bashing monster i will put moderator down seperately same as my rifles Does anybody currently use an fac theoben rapid and how do they find it for 60 70 yard rabbits There can be a very difficult balance for some in rifle choice, I run 12ft lb, and FAC air, and a selection of rimfires, 60-70 yards in the normal course of events falls in the .22lr category for me. Of course there are exceptions, that's why I run such a variety of rifles. My FAC air is .22 and around 25-26ft lb and is perfectly capable at 60-70 yards if I do my part, but if I'm after rabbits at that distance I will almost always reach for the better choice, .22lr. On the basis they are both FAC, the massive variety/power of ammo available for .22lr, and the costs/return on FAC Air, consider the .22lr carefully before settling on FAC air! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roostshooter1 Posted December 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 I already have a 22lr sako finnfire hunter but alot of my ground in the winter is so wet due to being on the somerset levels that the 22lr does get alot of ricochets i even resorted to using a 22_250 with 40 grain ballistic tips on some of them so thought a 22 fac air would give me a better option than the 22lr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenj Posted December 23, 2014 Report Share Posted December 23, 2014 I have a 12lb Webley Viper .22 PCP, which served me very well for years on 30 yard rabbits. When I put in for my FAC, I was granted .22 air, .22lr and .17 HMR. I bought a Career 707 carbine, which, judging by the 4mm transfer port, was giving 80lb. I fitted a new transfer port drilled to 2.5mm and got 28lb on a crono. This rifle was zeroed to 40 yards with Bisley Magnums and regularly takes rabbits to 50 yards and beyond with hold over, on one of my non rimfire permissions. On a 3000psi charge, I get ten full power shots, before holdover is needed with the Magnums, AA Field about 15. Most of my hunting with this rifle is in the 25 to 40 yard range, the longer shots, when I arrive, shooting across an open field to a hedge line. The owners have horses in the far field and I can't chance a ricochet. On my other permissions, it's .22lr, or the HMR every time, depending on the lie of the land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manthing Posted December 23, 2014 Report Share Posted December 23, 2014 So if i just put down .22 and get granted i could go on and buy a 60 ftlb airgun no problems Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted December 23, 2014 Report Share Posted December 23, 2014 So if i just put down .22 and get granted i could go on and buy a 60 ftlb airgun no problems Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiteandy Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 FAC is need for any airifle is any rifle over 11,5ftlbs i got mine up to 90ftlbs ! much cheaper than my mates 22 rimfire ,he went thru a fortune of bullets last weekend 500 accupells much cheaper and AIR !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 FAC is need for any airifle is any rifle over 11,5ftlbs i got mine up to 90ftlbs ! much cheaper than my mates 22 rimfire ,he went thru a fortune of bullets last weekend 500 accupells much cheaper and AIR !!! Kiteandy You seem to be miss informed on both accounts. FAC Air is any rifle over 12 ft/lb If you look at the cost of buying FAC air, the running could be cheaper so your 1/2 correct, but the cost of buying the set up is far far greater than a 22lr. Air tank £200 the Rifle its self if you get a 2nd hand AA 300 thats around £300, scope Mod. Or a 2nd hand 22lr for £150 scope £100, bullets £3.80 for 50 so yes the bullets are dearer than a tin of pellets which are now twice nearly what i used to pay. So balance out some/not all FAC air and you could be looking at £1000.00 + Indecently what rifle have you got that thats doing 90ft/lb thats quite impressive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 90 ftlb is about the same as an Eley Subsonic Rf. Are modern pellets good enough cope with that sort of power? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 90 ftlb is about the same as an Eley Subsonic Rf. Are modern pellets good enough cope with that sort of power? Some are yes like Rabbit magnums and Eley Air rifle bullets. but 90 ft/lb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 When shooting fullbore at 1000yrds, it is said to be a requirement for bullets to stay supersonic out to the target, because they become unstable as they fall back to subsonic speeds. At what range do supersonic airgun pellets drop back though the sound barrier? Perhaps this is the maximum distance for accuracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiteandy Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 MR Bowkett lives in other side of Birmingham , showed me how the cigar unit works when i he tuned my gun the first time , but he had to reduce it as i forgot my ticket , so i spent some time rebuilding the cigar unit , to get more air through per cycle , and a freind who works in machine shop made a custom transfer port even wider than the FAC version allso fitted custom strong hammerspring , this keeps the hammer open longer to let more air in , playing with different pellets i found accupells are so consistant ,and accurate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 MR Bowkett lives in other side of Birmingham , showed me how the cigar unit works when i he tuned my gun the first time , but he had to reduce it as i forgot my ticket , so i spent some time rebuilding the cigar unit , to get more air through per cycle , and a freind who works in machine shop made a custom transfer port even wider than the FAC version allso fitted custom strong hammerspring , this keeps the hammer open longer to let more air in , playing with different pellets i found accupells are so consistant ,and accurate Not at 90ft/lbs they won't be......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Kiteandy, I am assuming you have got some number's mixed up, As far as I am aware the heaviest accupel is less the 15grains. Now to reach 90 foot lb you would need to be pushing that pellet over 1350 feet per second and then some they just wont go that fast without blowing skirts, and accuracy will be all over the place, I can only suggest you get your chronograph checked. If all you say is correct then I'm amazed, and I'll travel the length of the country to see such a spectacle. Dougy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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