evo Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 well after reading on another forum about the wolverine c getting a scratch on the probe off the indexing lever in the magazine I decided to check mine and guess what it was scratched,, so I rang Daystate and was lucky enough to speak with Tony Belas, he explained to me what to do and then I spoke with a daystate engineer who also helped in great detail, well probe is sorted and my power is now 11.3 to 11.5ftlb from 170 to 100bar, considering its not regulated I was more than happy with the chrono results so all I can say is a big thankyou to Tony and the engineer for their help, another happy Daystate owner , just goes to show their aftersales (to me anyway) is still excellent now for my next daystate being launched on the 20th jan,,,, atb Evo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 Another plug for Daystate , you will get that freebie soon I am sure At least you have highlighted yet another issue with them so others can check their guns , no wonder their after sales is good the amount of practice they get , must be second only to hatsan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinybum Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 Hi EVO, i have just purchased a new wolverine B type, is this probe scratching likely to be an issue on this model too, i did some chrono testing last weekend and was getting 9.8ft lbs with premiers 7.9g, not very impressive, i have borrowed another chrony to double check figures with a range of pellets and wieghts so will see what the results are !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootgun Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 Another plug for Daystate , you will get that freebie soon I am sure At least you have highlighted yet another issue with them so others can check their guns , no wonder their after sales is good the amount of practice they get , must be second only to hatsan. Very very true... Evo, buy a HW mate, and you don't have to ring anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenshooter Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 Very very true... Evo, buy a HW mate, and you don't have to ring anyone From the reports of air rifles 'creeping' over the limit that have been posted on the Airgun BBS over the last 5 years of so, my impression is that the vast majority , say 75% + that I have seen are HW 100s that have become illegal and could cause their owners major legal issues. You may need to save your phone calls for your lawyer.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetter Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 To be fair I agree, every HW100 that has arrived at our club has gone back for being overpowered up to about 7 so far. But on the flip side both Daystate regals went back for leaks as well. About the only ones we rarely have issues with at the moment are AA400 series probably because the design is fairly settled now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted January 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 Hi EVO, i have just purchased a new wolverine B type, is this probe scratching likely to be an issue on this model too, i did some chrono testing last weekend and was getting 9.8ft lbs with premiers 7.9g, not very impressive, i have borrowed another chrony to double check figures with a range of pellets and wieghts so will see what the results are !! your .177 wolverine b will not be affected bud,,i,ve got the same rifle and not had a single problem with it at all,,it does seem a bit low on power though,,mind you your only round the corner from the daystate premises so it would probably be easier to pop it in to have the power sorted,, shootgun,,,,i think the HW100 is an excellent rifle mate but I don't like side levers, a rifle should have a bolt IMO so I,ll stick with my Daystates for now,,well until I can find a cheap enough hatsan to trade one of them in against NOT also as said above everyone I know that's owns an HW has had power issues and I aint spending 5 years in jail for no gun, one of them was the HW80 and that crept up to 13.5ftlb,, no sorry mate its daystate all day for me then air arms,love the s400 and also the s410 glenshooter to true mate, the HW are always creeping over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) Very very true... Evo, buy a HW mate, and you don't have to ring anyone Apart from the Samaritans when it goes over 12 ft lb, or is full of swarf which jams the exhaust valve open, or when the front and rear block twist slightly so you can't load it, rotating barrels (that happened to me on a 1 year old gun) all have happened to HW100s! As for their spring powered? Where to begin? The 99 eats itself, the entire range suffers from butchered springs which ruin the mechanism, swarf again, gritty or grotty Rekord units. Not as good as they were (and once upon a time they were the best - now accountants run the place not gun makers). Edited January 10, 2015 by secretagentmole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 I have the AA S410 and I am sick and tired of not having to ring anybody cos the blasted thing has gone right again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flynny Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) well after reading on another forum about the wolverine c getting a scratch on the probe off the indexing lever in the magazine I decided to check mine and guess what it was scratched,, so I rang Daystate and was lucky enough to speak with Tony Belas, he explained to me what to do and then I spoke with a daystate engineer who also helped in great detail, well probe is sorted and my power is now 11.3 to 11.5ftlb from 170 to 100bar, considering its not regulated I was more than happy with the chrono results so all I can say is a big thankyou to Tony and the engineer for their help, another happy Daystate owner , just goes to show their aftersales (to me anyway) is still good now for my next daystate being launched on the 20th jan,,,, atb Evo Good to hear that mate, how's Roger( golf shot ) doing?? PS to any one on PW who wants to know about PCP air rifles ( and NV gear) .Evo is the PW guru on these matters and is an honest ,decent top bloke, and knows his stuff inside out, Atb Flynny Edited January 10, 2015 by flynny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 Spot on Flynny .. !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 I have the AA S410 and I am sick and tired of not having to ring anybody cos the blasted thing has gone right again Hey everybody he got the good one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted January 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 Hey everybody he got the good one! the boy did good mole :lol: must admit my s410 was excellent but my buddys was a crock of dog poop, the magazine kept cracking(cheap nasty clear plastic) the gun itself would never hold charge for more than two days and to top it off the blueing on the barrel started to show signs of rusting and it had only ever been used on an indoor range so he couldn,t blame the rain, but in saying that is was excellent Flynny,,Roger is sound bud , he starts his new job next week so wont be out on the bunnies with me as much mate,,thanks for the heads up,,hope alls well your end bud atb Evo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 Spot on Mr Mole-I got the bad one last time though (Daystate mk3) but the S200, S510 S300 and TX200 before were just as lucky as my 410-how strange I should get such a run of luck As for AA magazines-they are less than 1/2 the price of the Daystate offering and I have never had a fault with one unlike my Mk3 PITA jobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 My Daystate ones are fine in my Mk3 and my Mk 3 came with 2 so I was lucky there. My Daystate only has one problem, that stupid magazine can (if you are not aware of the problem) let a pellet fall backwards whilst reloading. It then gets in the mechanism. You have to ensure the pellet head engages in the rubber band to stop this (I use a specially designed prodder = a cocktail stick with the ends snapped off) else this can shove loads of lead in the mechanism leading to stiff bolts and all manner of related problems. Other than that I have had no problem with the electric trigger or anything else on the gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deputy dog Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 Hoping to get my Wolverine B back this week. They have had it back for repair for a few weeks now. But yes I must agree with above posts, the Daystate after care was spot on and I also had the privilege of talking to Tony for advice which sadly didn't rectify the guns problem. But both him and his colleague were both very polite and very helpful. Can't wait to get my hands on my rifle though, I bought it October 29th last year and waited 6 weeks for it to be delivered. Only to put 40 shots through it before it had to be sent back. Though I have every confidence that the gun will come back 100% tip top condition. Just hoping their QC boff is on the ball this time around lol Gareth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootgun Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 From the reports of air rifles 'creeping' over the limit that have been posted on the Airgun BBS over the last 5 years of so, my impression is that the vast majority , say 75% + that I have seen are HW 100s that have become illegal and could cause their owners major legal issues. You may need to save your phone calls for your lawyer.. shootgun,,,,i think the HW100 is an excellent rifle mate but I don't like side levers, a rifle should have a bolt IMO so I,ll stick with my Daystates for now,,well until I can find a cheap enough hatsan to trade one of them in against NOT also as said above everyone I know that's owns an HW has had power issues and I aint spending 5 years in jail for no gun, one of them was the HW80 and that crept up to 13.5ftlb,, no sorry mate its daystate all day for me then air arms,love the s400 and also the s410 Apart from the Samaritans when it goes over 12 ft lb, or is full of swarf which jams the exhaust valve open, or when the front and rear block twist slightly so you can't load it, rotating barrels (that happened to me on a 1 year old gun) all have happened to HW100s! As for their spring powered? Where to begin? The 99 eats itself, the entire range suffers from butchered springs which ruin the mechanism, swarf again, gritty or grotty Rekord units. Not as good as they were (and once upon a time they were the best - now accountants run the place not gun makers). Have 2 HW100 and 1 HW97K, never had any problems with any of them. Dead accurate and reliable guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted January 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 Have 2 HW100 and 1 HW97K, never had any problems with any of them. Dead accurate and reliable guns. I can agree the hw100 CAN be an excellent rifle, I have used plenty but lets be totally honest ,,ALL rifle brands have their problems, and most makes and models will at sometime have a hiccup,the one thing that's makes me find Daystate rifles so appealing is the fact that the first one I bought was a huntsman classic .22, the very first time I picked it up it just felt so right,,accurate as hell, light in the arms and super smooth to load, I had the Air Arms s410 at the time which was an excellent rifle but the huntsman was of a totally different build quality and not only did it look well it actually shot as well as it looked, I was hooked, compared to every air rifle I had used before it was totally smooth , it also worked exceptionally well , I agree that when your paying your hard earned cash out for a rifle you expect it to be fully functional, the simple thing is ALL makes and models will have their problems,we all know they shouldn,t but they do, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 Have 2 HW100 and 1 HW97K, never had any problems with any of them. Dead accurate and reliable guns. Be careful the HW100 is notorious for creeping up on power and the internals on the 97 have been the source of many complaints of grotty Rekord triggers, poor spring finishing, poor internals (which is why so many people have them tuned), reports of swarf in cylinders and mechanisms and poor bluing across the range! HW do have problems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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