Dekers Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Do you mean NEW as in brand new or simply new to you? Your market is somewhat limited in new new for your budget, and personally I would suggest you spend your budget on a known make used, rather than a cheaper new. We all like/rate different guns, get one that fits, simple as! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corkycorksta Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Armsan A612S I think only available in 3" chamber. Lovely thing for little money and owners rate them highly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linny Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 i looked at a Winchester SX3 a while back and a thought the plastic fore stock felt very cheap and small just my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 i looked at a Winchester SX3 a while back and a thought the plastic fore stock felt very cheap and small just my opinion I felt exactly the same, this was also the case with the Maxus. That is though just the aesthetics, by all accounts they are good guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyxologos Posted January 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 New to me, sorry. Although I recall my rfd showed me some new beretas or Winchester (I cannot remember) when I had an academic interest a few months back. Yes, I need a 3 1/2 inch for geese, but I plan to use the gun for pest control too. I will keep my miroky mk70 for clays and game, if and when I go after some... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Maxus for me, would buy another if I wear the current one out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fib new Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 My current sa is a browning A5 -the new one- before this one it was a browning gold. Both have been up to expectations -good guns so far. I would go for a well known brand gun that fits. Try a few and make your pick. I know there are a lot of people on here that are crazy about one brand and others that really like the other... But you really cannot go far wrong by choosing one of a brand like browning, beretta, winchester and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony G Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 I use a SX3,£850 brand new and can't fault it As good as more expensive autos in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyxologos Posted January 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 I personally shoot a Remington Versamax you may struggle to find one for your budget but if you can they are a great gun and without doubt the easiest to clean gas auto I have ever had, not that it needs a full clean very often , mine gets one every 1000 cartridges or so and cycles faultless . Wow. This is encouraging. I currently clean my o/u and my s/s every time I go out shooting. If this is the case then ease of cleaning is pretty immaterial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew f Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Wow. This is encouraging. I currently clean my o/u and my s/s every time I go out shooting. If this is the case then ease of cleaning is pretty immaterial. you better not look at my shotguns then :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Wow. This is encouraging. I currently clean my o/u and my s/s every time I go out shooting. If this is the case then ease of cleaning is pretty immaterial. The cleaning issue is a BIG debate and in the end its down to the user! My shotguns get cleaned every use, semi or O/U. If I left my Beretta 391 for 1000 shots before cleaning I would need a hammer and chisel to clean the burnt residue from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyxologos Posted January 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 The cleaning issue is a BIG debate and in the end its down to the user! My shotguns get cleaned every use, semi or O/U. If I left my Beretta 391 for 1000 shots before cleaning I would need a hammer and chisel to clean the burnt residue from it. That's what I thought might be the case. But if cleaning a semi auto once every 1000 shots does not affect accuracy or damage the gun where is the problem?As I wrote earlier, I was told I should clean my shotguns each time I comeback from an outing, and this is what I have been doing. I have to say though I never shoot more that 15-20 shots (if I am lucky) but it is often wet and miserable so I do so to prevent rust. If it is a synthetic shotgun we are talking about, would it matter, other than making sure the internal mechanism is operating properly? I tend to over worry about these things but the discussion about cleaning that just sprung here makes me think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 If you want it to last and perform at it's best clean it after use even synthetic. I have to as I am out wildfowling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan. Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 I don't understand why you wouldn't clean a gun after every use? Even just for piece of mind that everything is working as it should after use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyxologos Posted January 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 I don't understand why you wouldn't clean a gun after every use? Even just for piece of mind that everything is working as it should after use. That is my sentiment. I am just playing devil's advocate here. So how long does it take you on average to clean your semi auto (and which one is it)? I watched a few youtube videos and they take the gun completely apart, trigger, barrel, forend, chamber etc. That looks really complicated. I guess it gets easier with time, but I am just wondering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) I watched a video where a guy from Berretta demonstrates how to clean an A400 Xplor and an Xtreme like mine.He stated that the gun can go for 10,000 rounds before needing cleaning!!I try to clean as often as possible, but I might go out two or three times without a clean.Regards stripping the gun, though I haven't timed it, I reckon I could strip it down including trigger mechanism and bolt assembly out in under a minute.Obviously you can be as meticulous as you like taking hours polishing every nook and cranny, but a general clean would take no more than ten minutes including taking gun apart and putting back together.This is my second semi auto, the other being a Benelli 121, and I don't really see an issue with cleaning. Yes it needs a little more than an over and under but it's not a scary as I thought reading posts when I was contemplating my first one.Cos Edited January 27, 2015 by Cosd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 I don't understand why you wouldn't clean a gun after every use? Even just for piece of mind that everything is working as it should after use. Do you go on the foreshore shooting? If so cleaning after everytime is essential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Do you go on the foreshore shooting? If so cleaning after everytime is essential. Err , he is saying he does clean his gun after every use and cannot understand why anyone would not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Err , he is saying he does clean his gun after every use and cannot understand why anyone would not. Opps I read it wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 The cleaning issue is a BIG debate and in the end its down to the user! My shotguns get cleaned every use, semi or O/U. If I left my Beretta 391 for 1000 shots before cleaning I would need a hammer and chisel to clean the burnt residue from it. When I say mine goes a 1000 between cleans , that is a full strip down , it is wiped over and a drop of oil put on the bolt slides after each trip to the marsh . I would agree about the 391 as I had one before the versamax the carbon build up in the piston is a pain as there is not a great deal of room to get to it . The Versamax's two pistons are much easier to clean and a 4.10 cleaning rod and brush fits in the pistons chambers perfectly . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 When I say mine goes a 1000 between cleans , that is a full strip down , it is wiped over and a drop of oil put on the bolt slides after each trip to the marsh . I would agree about the 391 as I had one before the versamax the carbon build up in the piston is a pain as there is not a great deal of room to get to it . The Versamax's two pistons are much easier to clean and a 4.10 cleaning rod and brush fits in the pistons chambers perfectly . I wasn't aware the 391 was like that, the account I gave for cleaning was based on the A400, where the piston is large enough to put a finger through it with a cloth to clean that area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 I wasn't aware the 391 was like that, the account I gave for cleaning was based on the A400, where the piston is large enough to put a finger through it with a cloth to clean that area. Then that may be easier , I was quoting deckers , I believe some of the later 391s had a self cleaning piston which helped with the carbon build up issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon 3 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 I have only ever fully stripped and cleaned my SX3 a couple of times in the years I have had it. I am with Fenboy on this one after most trips on the foreshore a quick wipe down is more than enough. But I see my semi auto of more of a "tool" than a thing of beauty whereas my clay and game gun is meticulously cleaned after every outing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bang bang birdy Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 If I completely strip and clean all the parts on my sx3 it takes me about an hour, but I have had it since new so I get in ever nook and cranie with a tooth brush so it is still in as new condition after 3 years use. My FEO even commented on how clean my guns were today when renewing my tickets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyxologos Posted January 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Thanks for your continuing input guys. Much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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