foxshooter69 Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Hi all, Probably been done before, but what do you guys recommend, stirrup pump or divers bottle and why? Cheers Fs69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carman06 Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 I'm interested in this also as looking for one or the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Depends if you are very fit.. Then go for the bottle anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) I have a HW100 KT , and I opted for a pump , best move ever in my case , I bought the new Hatsan one built like a tank and a piece of cake to use , I can charge my rifle back up to 200bar in under 2 mins , that's setting it up , charging and disconnecting it ..... job done . It cost me £120 inc delivery from blackpool air rifles , p,s and you DONT have to be built like a brick **** house , Edited February 4, 2015 by stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Depends on the rifle,I found a pump hard work filling the buddy bottles on my supertens. Bought a dive cylinder around a week after ,nice clean moisture free air on tap never looked back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 (edited) if you only use the rifle occasionally then go for a pump, if you use the rifle on a regular basis then go for a dive cylinder, stirrup pumps can and DO put moisture inside your guns air cylinder,, dive cylinders will NOT put moisture in your guns air cylinder, a dive cylinder is the way to go to be honest and will fill your pcp with CLEAN DRY air, anyone who uses a pump these days is just too tight to spend money :lol: Edited February 5, 2015 by evo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onatangent Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 it has been said that its only a couple of minutes pumping, ooer missus, but I like using a bottle. Quick and simple, needs refilling and a test but hey. Stirrups do have inbuilt moisture traps and should be classed as fulfilling the government health guideline of get yourself out of breath lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubby Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 few years back I bought rifle and pump, it nearly killed me the first time I used it, went back and exchanged it for a bottle two things spring to mind, it was hard enough in the living room with the nice flat floor, think out in the field, soft muddy stuff, yes you could find a rock or something, but really!!!! secondly, if you totally empty the rifle, then you need the pressure of a bottle to close the rifles internal valve, you aint getting that with a pump, so you'll end up having to take it to a shop to do anyway, may as well get the bottle pity you were not closer as I have both for sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFC Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Depends on the size of the bottle on the rifle. I have s410 and it doesn't take much to fill with a pump but I'm sure a large buddy bottle will be more work. The other thing with a pump, especially in the winter, is not to pump too hard otherwise the air warms up and causes condensation as it goes into a cold bottle which can cause internal rust. A divers bottle is filled with dry breathable air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Depends on the size of the bottle on the rifle. I have s410 and it doesn't take much to fill with a pump but I'm sure a large buddy bottle will be more work. The other thing with a pump, especially in the winter, is not to pump too hard otherwise the air warms up and causes condensation as it goes into a cold bottle which can cause internal rust. A divers bottle is filled with dry breathable air. yeah very good point there , mine is only a carbine , so like you not a lot to fill up , I have never had the pump warm up . but im sure on a bigger rifle that would change . atb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmamonster Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 I got vermi , bobcat and s16 all filled up with a pump, if you are capable , use a pump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rst1990 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 I went for the bottle as my gun cost me a few quid and don't really want to do damage with rust etc and I'm a lazy **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxshooter69 Posted February 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 I've been looking at the Airforce one stirrup pumps, anyone got one or maybe recommend a different one Fs69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy220 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Hills stirrup with moisture filter is the best I've had so far not too hard on the biceps but I'll be flogging that soon for a bottle as its a pain to use in the mud as mentioned above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 if you dont mind a lot of water being put into your gun, then stirrup pump if you want truly dry clean air then a dive cylinder. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 why do you have to have the big air bottles tested every few yrs , ? what it the reason ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 why do you have to have the big air bottles tested every few yrs , ? what it the reason ? See if they can still take the pressure, Same as your gas tank in the garden,etc,etc,etc. Even my bottle for gas for welding has to be tested every few years.. (IF) it went it would be like a hand grenade.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 See if they can still take the pressure, Same as your gas tank in the garden,etc,etc,etc. Even my bottle for gas for welding has to be tested every few years.. (IF) it went it would be like a hand grenade.. yep i get that . Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted February 13, 2015 Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 I opted for a bottle, was using a pump until it failed on me at 200bar, the handle clean broke off when it was fully compressed. Leaving the centre rod to fly up and into my stomach. Ended up in a&e with an internal bleed. Lucky for me it ended up as just a massive bruise and solid lump of blood just under the skin. If i didn't have a thick jumper on it would of been a different story.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chandler Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 No brained for me, three PCPs that get topped up once a week. Nearest air tank fill service over 14 miles away, so I use a pump. I have no hands and honestly it's no real effort to use. 5 mins max and good to go. My Hills pump has never let me down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archiebald Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 I opted for a bottle, was using a pump until it failed on me at 200bar, the handle clean broke off when it was fully compressed. Leaving the centre rod to fly up and into my stomach. Ended up in a&e with an internal bleed. Lucky for me it ended up as just a massive bruise and solid lump of blood just under the skin. If i didn't have a thick jumper on it would of been a different story.. Wow that sounds nasty! Glad to hear your ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshcup11 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Each to they're own,personally I've had both,I had a pump which i found kept me very fit but was a pain in the **** to maintain (cheap pump) I then resorted to driving 20 minutes down the road to the local gun shop to get it pumped up,it cost 2 pound a time plus a 5er in diesel which totals up to 7quid a time,I'd do this once a week, it then occurred to me and my stupid brain that Infact it would he cheaper buying a 7ltr dive bottle,getting it filled at the same place for 3 pound and getting 30 fills of it! it was a no brainer for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carman06 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 I bought a 4 litre bottle in the end for £139 with boot, MDE valve and charging hose so all good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobba Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 why do you have to have the big air bottles tested every few yrs , ? what it the reason ?As has been said. To ensure they can continue to take the fill pressure. Should you go down the dive cylinder route then get one with an integral contents gauge. The reason is this. A dive cylinder with a pillar valve without an integral contents gauge and capable of supporting diving has to have a a hydraulic (hydrostatic) test very 5 years following it's production date with a visual inspection 1/2 way through these periods. And testing is not cheap and inconvenient as the cylinder has to go to a test facility. If you have a pillar valve with an integral contents gauge which cannot be used for scuba diving then it is for surface use only and only needs testing every five years I.e. Dispensing with the visual test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldfinger Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) Pump for me anytime I generally only fire 20-30 shots at most whilst out stalking rabbits/pigs so topping up air is easy with pump. Edited March 1, 2015 by Goldfinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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