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At the end of the season my lab has started to whine when picking up...he has now started whining when roost shooting. ...so far he is still quite in the hide.

I started to give him a tap when he started but been told not to do that as a tap will turn into a slap.

I was thinking about getting him a spray collar and use it each time he starts.?

His whining is down to excitement , is there any training methods I could use durring close season to get him ready for the next?

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Willow32

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Yep, put him in the situation he usually whines in and give him no exciting end result.

On a serious note whining as you know is a sign of anticipation but VERY hard to stop once instilled. Ive not encountered this particular problem myself but I suppose I would do some retrieve drills but let him have very few himself - go and pick most of them up yourself whilst he's wearing a spray collar, that kind of thing. Like I say it's nigh on impossible to stop once started from what I've seen and heard.

I guess a spray collar might help but if you're in the hide with him when you get home your missus is going to think you're having an affair hahaha ;)

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At the end of the season my lab has started to whine when picking up...he has now started whining when roost shooting. ...so far he is still quite in the hide.

I started to give him a tap when he started but been told not to do that as a tap will turn into a slap.

I was thinking about getting him a spray collar and use it each time he starts.?

His whining is down to excitement , is there any training methods I could use durring close season to get him ready for the next?

Regards

Willow32

Harsh though it sounds, from what I've read; any form of chastisement needs to be quite harsh first off (enough to shock the dog a bit but obviously not enough to do any harm) or you end up in a situation of starting off quite tame and progressively getting harder and all the time the dog's getting used to it - so it never really has much effect even when it gets to the point you're beating the dog black and blue because it's not really much different to last time :/

 

Mine was terrible for pulling on the lead for the first six months or so (I got her at 9mths), I tried everything but never seemed to get anywhere. There was a path through to a playing field where I walk / train her and that's where she really did used to go overboard. I was at the end of my tether and decided maybe it was time to try a harder line. I slapped her side, admittedly harder than I intended, and physically chucked her into the bushes for good measure - I went too far (to my shame) but it does prove the point; She doesn't go too far with the pulling now and, if she ever really steps out of line, I need only hold my hand up and crouch as though I'm going to slap her and it's clear she's got the message - It was harsh but I only needed to do it ONCE and will never need to do it again.

 

That said, I don't think it's the answer for whining and really don't know what is - my springer's recently started it too but only before we leave the house or if we're laid up somewhere for a long time with a rifle, I'd still like to nip it in the bud though

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He's not handled the pressure / anticipation of the picking up situation, hence making the noise. There's a lot reasons why this could happen. I suspect that sooner or later he'll crank up in the hide as well. You can do whatever you like to him but he'll never 100% stop doing it. You can only hope to work out a way of managing it, you need to break the dogs focus on what is happening around him, distract him. Either learn to live / work with it or leave him at home.

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