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Just bought a shotgun off a lad on gun trader, he's took it to his RFD today, Iv informed my RFD to expect it, now Iv just been called by the lad I bought it from saying I need to send my license to him so he can add it to it before his RFD can send it to mine.

*** is going on there then.

Why have I not heard about this?

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My RFD said it came into affect 8 month ago but know body was told.

I was shocked when I rang them up and they confirmed it, shocked.

Complete rubbish, he takes it to his RFD who enters it onto his books and ships it to your RFD who enters it onto his books and writes it onto your SGC when you collect it.

It used to be. But seems like not anymore

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How can you legally be responsible for a weapon on your ticket when you have not seen it, and is not in your procession ?. I have heard about this madness before but would be something I wouldn't want to get involved in. Nothing wrong in the old system where the seller gets payment the takes it to his Rfd, that Rfd arranges to have the weapon transported to the purchasers rfd. The purchasers Rfd then add it to the purchasers ticket

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if this came in to effect 8 months ago,surely we would have heard/read about it,load of tosh if you ask me,i had my renewal interview yesterday and asked my FLO if there were any changes made lately to variations timescales,as I might be putting one in,and he said one week timescale if not sooner,but nothing else has changed where anything else is concerned,so go ahead as normal,unless this new thing hasn't reached Northumbria yet,maybe david from basc can shed some light..

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If you buy from Holts that's how it works.

When i asked about it i was told that is who it was always meant to be done.

A mate sent his off it was sent back but because their was no one about to sign for it the post man left a not for in to be picked up at the office, the post office then gave it to someone else!

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The method mentioned above is correct and written into H.O. Guidance. My local RFD has been doing it this way for ages. The RFD is only to act as a transport conduit. The transfer is between the seller and buyer. You send certificate to seller. He annotated sale onto it and sends it back. He then sends shotgun via RFD to RFD. You then take your returned and completed certificate to RFD to collect shotgun. If RFD puts it on their books they become liable for claims against sale of goods act. This way they are just a courrier if you like.

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The method mentioned above is correct and written into H.O. Guidance. My local RFD has been doing it this way for ages. The RFD is only to act as a transport conduit. The transfer is between the seller and buyer. You send certificate to seller. He annotated sale onto it and sends it back. He then sends shotgun via RFD to RFD. You then take your returned and completed certificate to RFD to collect shotgun. If RFD puts it on their books they become liable for claims against sale of goods act. This way they are just a courrier if you like.

everytime ive done this my rfd had put it on my cert as transfered,, ive also had guns put on my cert by the local police having taken possesion of a deceased freinds weapons , as transfered,i would have thought that covers the burdon.

the only thing i am aware of that has changed regarding rfd's are the way with which the records are to be kept

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Oddly 5 yrs ago I had to send my licence to Avalon guns,they added the new gun to licence,this was then sent back and the gun sent to my local RFD,where I just presented my licence to collect it.Why I have no idea,it may of been to save me paying at this end I haven't got a sco by do.

I thought you just pay the RFD at this end to do the paperwork.

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The method mentioned above is correct and written into H.O. Guidance. My local RFD has been doing it this way for ages. The RFD is only to act as a transport conduit. The transfer is between the seller and buyer. You send certificate to seller. He annotated sale onto it and sends it back. He then sends shotgun via RFD to RFD. You then take your returned and completed certificate to RFD to collect shotgun. If RFD puts it on their books they become liable for claims against sale of goods act. This way they are just a courrier if you like.

 

Indeed. In fact this is as it should have been done for years, it's just that many RFDs have been circumventing the requirement.

 

To all those who are rubbishing this I would suggest you read page 3 of your firearms certificate item 3, which clearly states taht this is the requirement.

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