Gaz9243 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Hi, I have recently started having issues with my air rifle or scope. Webley venom sidewinder / hawke scope. It's alway been quite accurate until now, and I'm now getting a grouping of about 9" at all ranges. I have tried tightening everything up, but still no better. Any suggestions? Thanks Gaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 have you tried hitting it with a lump hammer that might improve things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz9243 Posted March 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 The thought has crossed my mind!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Take the scope off and try it on a different gun or put a different scope on the webley. Has the barrel taken a whack? Check the power of the gun. If it's all over the place, that could account for it. a seal might have gone somewhere/valve sticking. It may have also taken a knock to the magazine or loading mechanism. If it's crushing pellets when they're being pushed into the breach, then that'd do it. If you have a silencer, that could have taken a knock, so take that off and see if it improves. the pellets could be clipping the silencer. if it's the scope, and it's not an expensive one, just ditch it and get a new one. you could send it off to be repaired, but the chances are it might not be worth it. hope that helps! where are you mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 have you tried hitting it with a lump hammer that might improve things Time of the month evo ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Take the scope off and try it on a different gun or put a different scope on the webley. Has the barrel taken a whack? Check the power of the gun. If it's all over the place, that could account for it. a seal might have gone somewhere/valve sticking. It may have also taken a knock to the magazine or loading mechanism. If it's crushing pellets when they're being pushed into the breach, then that'd do it. If you have a silencer, that could have taken a knock, so take that off and see if it improves. the pellets could be clipping the silencer. if it's the scope, and it's not an expensive one, just ditch it and get a new one. you could send it off to be repaired, but the chances are it might not be worth it. hope that helps! where are you mate? Not a lot to add to that , I dont suppose you have put oil down the barrel or such like ? , my first thought was check without the silencer if it has one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz9243 Posted March 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 im based in Chorley mate. I have thought about a possible seal problem, as I it has had one before. Just worried about having it confiscated if it's over by the shop. Hadn't thought about the silencer, so will check that tomorrow. How would I check the pellet tho? Thank you for the reply! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 I would think it unlikely to be the pellet , you would feel some resistance if it was not loading correctly i would think and even a damaged pellet should group better than 9" ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dignity Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 I had the same problem and it was the silencer the pellets were catching the side of it on there way out, I just drilled the hole through the silencer out slightly, it solved the problem and didn't effect the performance of the silencer either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz9243 Posted March 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 The pellets load with ease, so that's one less thing to worry about. I will try and Borrow a different scope if it's not the silencer. What would cause it to catch the silencer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dignity Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 The gun I have is a Logun axsor (webley) I don't know if your barrel is the same but its in two parts as in an outer and an inner, inner part on mine was very slightly over to one side and not quite central inside the outer part causing the pellet to strike the silencer on its way out, once I had drilled the silencer it was fine . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliver90owner Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Ream, not drill if the silencer needs. Drills are heathen for a precision job! More likely it is full of gunge, I would have thought - a good clean and careful rebuild might be in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Time of the month evo ? how did you guess :lol: take the silencer off,,then check it,,,for accuracy cant see it being your pellets,,, if you are worried about taking it to a gunsmith (because of power ) then my advice to you is get it on a chronograph straight away because you need to know just what power it is throwing out,,by the sound of it ,, it is running over power which is the reason you don't want to take it to a shop is it really worth doing 5 years jail it is YOUR responsibility to ensure it it under 12ftlb and no-one else,s hope ya get it sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz9243 Posted March 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 how did you guess :lol: take the silencer off,,then check it,,,for accuracy cant see it being your pellets,,, if you are worried about taking it to a gunsmith (because of power ) then my advice to you is get it on a chronograph straight away because you need to know just what power it is throwing out,,by the sound of it ,, it is running over power which is the reason you don't want to take it to a shop is it really worth doing 5 years jail it is YOUR responsibility to ensure it it under 12ftlb and no-one else,s hope ya get it sorted Sorry should have been clearer! The rifle is still under warranty, but the shop I bought it from has no chrono at the moment, so would have to get it checked elsewhere. Don't know where I would stand if they confiscated it. Hence trying to suss the problem before I take it in. I had to return it 18month ago, due to shooting under power. So it's all factory set! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) Sorry should have been clearer! The rifle is still under warranty, but the shop I bought it from has no chrono at the moment, so would have to get it checked elsewhere. Don't know where I would stand if they confiscated it. Hence trying to suss the problem before I take it in. I had to return it 18month ago, due to shooting under power. So it's all factory set! if its still under warranty mate then take it back to where you bought it from and let them sort it,,if you start fiddling with the gun your warranty will become void, they will try anything to get out of it I can assure you,, I personally think the pellet is clipping the silencer/moderator and that would be the first thing I would check,,just take the silencer off and fire a few shots and if it improves then you know that is the problem, you will then have to re zero your scope don't forget, good luck with it atb Evo Edited March 6, 2015 by evo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Hi, I have recently started having issues with my air rifle or scope. Webley venom sidewinder / hawke scope. It's alway been quite accurate until now, and I'm now getting a grouping of about 9" at all ranges. I have tried tightening everything up, but still no better. Any suggestions? Thanks Gaz I'm more than a little confused.......so. if you shoot at 20 yards you get a group of 9", then if you go out to 40 yards the group tightens to 9", but then if you back to 20 yards it opens out again to 9". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz9243 Posted March 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 I'm more than a little confused.......so. if you shoot at 20 yards you get a group of 9", then if you go out to 40 yards the group tightens to 9", but then if you back to 20 yards it opens out again to 9". I really should have been clearer in my op. I was saying 9" as a common score, but there is no real consistency to the grouping. Sometimes less (around 4") sometimes more (around 11") and anything I between, but it's generally towards the latter! Thank you all for the replies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua1993 Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 I really should have been clearer in my op. I was saying 9" as a common score, but there is no real consistency to the grouping. Sometimes less (around 4") sometimes more (around 11") and anything I between, but it's generally towards the latter! Thank you all for the replies! I'd take it back to the shop for them to have a look at. Seems the best solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyflier Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 Time of the month evo ? Screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeem, owww, me guts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 Time of the month evo ? Screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeem, owww, me guts! it tickled me pink too :lol: but that's fenboys sense of humour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiteandy Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 i had the same problem , but for other reasons extreme high power , the pellets were clipping the silencer sending the pellets every where ! i cant use a silencer as theres so much air coming out behined the pellet , in the silencer it was causing the pellet to wobble , and accuracy was the same pellets were going evey where and i couldnt zero it at all , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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