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Courier delivery of a shotgun..............


timclarke
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Please could I check if my understanding is correct as far as delivering guns if someone asks me to.

 

I run a small courier company and I have a shotgun licence.

 

This would only apply if either myself or one of my drivers with a shotgun licence was doing the delivery by the way.

 

I think I can deliver shotguns but not firearms as my shotgun licence allows me temporary custody of the weapon without recording it on my certificate.

 

I think going from one gun dealer to another gun dealer would be OK but are there any other points it would be legal to go to and from?

 

Any feedback appreciated.

 

Many thanks!

 

Tim

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Thanks to all.

 

I spoke to the local FEO who was very clear that a courier couldn't do it, unless the individual driver had a shotgun certificate.

 

Looks like I'll have to drive up to MK!

 

I don't understand how TNT can deliver shotguns or firearms on that basis though as TNT clearly aren't a dealer are they?

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There are exemptions for carriers it's in the firearms act.

 

(1)A person carrying on the business of an auctioneer, carrier or warehouseman, or a servant of such a person, may, without holding a certificate, have in his possession a firearm or ammunition in the ordinary course of that business.

 

(4)It is not an offence under section 3(2) of this Act for a carrier or warehouseman, or a servant of a carrier or warehouseman, to deliver any firearm or ammunition in the ordinary course of his business or employment as such.

 

The question is how do you go about being a carrier, I assume there is some paperwork over and above just being a normal courier service.

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It makes sense if you read the act, if this was not the case then if you are travelling abroad with your gun, finding airport baggage handlers and a pilot with a certificate would be hard.



As some found out coming back from Dubai the gun does not always travel back on the same plane and does come into contact with people that don’t have a certificate whilst in the UK.

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I would ask if it would be cost effective for a small courier company.parcel force or tnt may charge say £25 to take a gun from one end of the country to the other as they have network.but I presume you would be doing direct single van delivery so in reality would price yourself out of the market

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The wording says servant of the carrier/rfd....... So by default tnt staff become "employees" of the rfd as they are paid by the rfd (indirectly) to deliver to another rfd.

 

I remember being in a gun shop in milton keynes, chatting to the owner...... A tnt and a parcel force guy both brought in gun shaped packages, asked for signatures and left the packages on the floor

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The wording says servant of the carrier/rfd....... So by default tnt staff become "employees" of the rfd as they are paid by the rfd (indirectly) to deliver to another rfd.

 

I remember being in a gun shop in milton keynes, chatting to the owner...... A tnt and a parcel force guy both brought in gun shaped packages, asked for signatures and left the packages on the floor

 

Not quite. A carrier is exempt in their own right.

 

As an example, a certificate holder can legally post a S1 firearm to a RFD, therefore in such a case the carrier is acting for the certificate holder, not the RFD.

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The wording says servant of the carrier/rfd....... So by default tnt staff become "employees" of the rfd as they are paid by the rfd (indirectly) to deliver to another rfd.

I remember being in a gun shop in milton keynes, chatting to the owner...... A tnt and a parcel force guy both brought in gun shaped packages, asked for signatures and left the packages on the floor

In the old days I knew of a well known bonded carrier leave a dozen glocks on the gun shop doorstep. That WAS fun
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