Davyo Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) Can not understand why people do this,this is the general tidy up i did this morning when i set my hide up.Was not comfortable sitting amongst this mess is this how some decoyers show their respect to farmers.Makes me feel ashamed at times.This is a new permission where others shoot (when they feel like turning up),there is even areas where they have even left the cartridge boxes. Don't want to say anything direct as I shouldn't have too,this is part of decoying etiquette,but I have left a nice little neat pile,hopefully they will see it and the message will sink in an some one might take them home if not I will. Back there tomorrow,so if the pigeons don't want to play i am going to spend the day walking the hedgerows tidying up. Edited March 24, 2015 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissaddler Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Very commendable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicW Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 The thing that gets up my nose with rubbish being left behind is that the culprits are happy to carry the drink bottles, food containers, cartridges etc for miles when they are full and heavy but as soon as they are empty and lighter to carry they throw them on the ground. You have to assume that their houses are junk yards as well. Vic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 i used to shoot on a farm outside cardiff that had a lot of people shooting there, it seemed no matter where we set up there where old rusty carts, even piles of fresh ones and cart boxes... doesnt do us any favours if the farmer sees us in one spot and then finds this stuff so i used to pick what ever was around. now my regular shooting ground is miles away and thankfully all the farms there seem to be looked after my holdall that i take when im hide shooting always has some recycle bags in the side pocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy220 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I share a farm with a couple of summer shooters. Went round one evening to a fied where they had obviously just been shooting. Cartridges in the bush clearly chucked in there, a dozen crows scattered on the field. 2 of which were wounded but still alive so had to finish them off and then to top it off there was a seagull in the middle of it all left there. I took some pictures, cleaned it up then emailed the farmer to grass them up. I'm not getting the blame for some scumbags mess where I shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2meterpeter Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 this sort of thing used to go on where i had a perm , this was a mixed farm cow,s sheep and arable , in the end we had to bring it to the farmers attention , their was lots being left around , including beer cans the worry was if the animals chocked on the empty cases or they got stuck in their guts , we did say to others shooting to clear up their own **** but in the end we had to say as we did not want him thinking it was us and loose the site , their is only so much you can do before you have to say something as bad as it may seem squealing on others , and the thought that they might loose the site , we all know how hard it is to get one, it was the right thing to do ,to save the cost of a cow and the loss to all of us , but well done for all your efforts , in sorting this in the first place . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I try to leave only crushed grass and a few feathers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I try to leave only crushed grass and a few feathers. thats the only way to do it, when we pack up i tend to have a quick walk around where we have been to double check.. not just rubbish we may have missed but also any kit we may have taken, almost left a bouncer a while back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Principal I have always worked to and taught our children. If you can carry it there full, you can carry it back empty. Really annoys me when going around the countryside seeing mess left in field gates and rubbish chucked in hedge rows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 WHY? Because they are low life scumbags! Gathering it all up and leaving in a neat pile will just encourage them to leave more! Best to clear it up and take it away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superspark Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 It's a real shame that people have to be so lazy in leaving all their rubbish lying around, makes me wonder if their own homes are a tip as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 It's a real shame that people have to be so lazy in leaving all their rubbish lying around, makes me wonder if their own homes are a tip as well. Their homes are probably immaculate, because all their mess has been left in the countryside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superspark Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Yer you are probably right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 On my shoot if you leave mess or cartridges you don't come back - Simples yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deputy dog Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) Take the pictures and show the farmer. He may know the last lot who have been on there and stop them shooting there in the future. Their disrespectful behaviour maybe an advantage to your shooting on there as he could turn it around and just give you sole shooting rights over his land. DD Edited March 24, 2015 by deputy dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Take the pictures and show the farmer. He may know the last lot who have been on there and stop them shooting there in the future. Their disrespectful behaviour maybe an advantage to your shooting on there as he could turn it around and just give you sole shooting rights over his land. DD I did this two years ago. Not only did I find lots of cartridges thrown in the hedge but also all of the pigeons the man had shot. He was never allowed on the place again. This was a supposed 'respectable' man, a pillar of the local community and a Range Rover driving undertaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmaxphil Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Obviously not countrymen then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
955i Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Me and my mate regularly used to come away with loads of used carts from hedgerows that we shot from. Took a while but eventually found out it was the farmer leaving them there when he fancied a few shots, so not always the ignorant cluttering other peoples land!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Always better to say something, otherwise it might come back and bite you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 The result of bad parenting and a scummy upbringing IMO. There has been a fundamental shortcoming in the values imparted to those who litter, whether in town or country. I don't care whether it's dropping a fag butt, spitting gum or leaving cart cases and rubbish in a hide. To show such disrespect for a landowner who has entrusted you on his property is unforgivable in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuddster Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 bring it to the attention of the farmer- i had a similair event but with a load of empties and general litter left in a hedge-complete with a mound of woodies topped off with a hare (in summer). I pointed that I had found this mess as is and was nothing to do with me. I wouldnt dare leave my ground in such a sh.... state. f. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy220 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Tossers like these are half the reason we find securing permission so,hard nowadays. Farmer gets one bloke who leaves his **** everywhere and is put off giving permission to the friendly good looking chap, when I knock on his door! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 You have to point it out really. If the landowner finds the odd case in future he may point the finger at you. Get in there first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 You have to point it out really. If the landowner finds the odd case in future he may point the finger at you. Get in there first. Because of this, I have a blanket rule on the farm for the shooters, if anything like that is left, they all go, might sound harsh, but I got fed up of this type of disrespect, I asked each shooter, none owned up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Because of this, I have a blanket rule on the farm for the shooters, if anything like that is left, they all go, might sound harsh, but I got fed up of this type of disrespect, I asked each shooter, none owned up. Fair enough. We once had a lad who was invited to shoot on our land as a 'mate of a mate'. He was a very nice bloke actually, but unknown to us had no idea about the ways of the countryside and what was expected of him. He would shoot anything that moved and most things that didn't, and after the first shoot of one season my nephew point blank refused to be anywhere near him again when out shooting. He was told, but it didn't seem to sink in, and after finding a dead Hare dumped in the wood and a plastic water container on the railway banking he had turned into a collander, he was told he wouldn't be coming back. Shame, but it was either him or all of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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