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My dog is a couple of months away from being 2 1/2 years old. He gets on well with almost every other dog, I say almost because he takes a turn with 3 particular dogs.

 

Since having him I have only ever seen him show aggressive behaviour with three dogs, but its the same dogs and none of these dogs have been aggressive with him.

 

I went out for a run yesterday with my wife and he runs with us; It's a park which has dogs everywhere. He will stop and play with any dog, or run ahead and play until I run past him. A quick call is all he needs to resume our run and more often than not he just stops for a moment then carry's on with us.

We literally just finished our run when I saw a guy I know who owns one of these "3 dogs". Both dogs were off the lead, and within seconds my dog turned again. This is the second time he has gone for that dog now and I am really upset that he has done that.

 

Before I had my dog snipped, he got attacked a fair number of times when he was younger, nothing bad, but this has stopped since he was done.

 

Why is my dog doing this, and more importantly what can I do to stop it?

 

All three dogs are male, 2 are pointers, younger than him but taller (not pups), not sure how old the Labrador is.

 

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One of our setters years ago was attacked by a golden Labrador when he was a pup. After this he was always aggressive towards golden labrador males, but no other breed. I don't think Dad ever stopped him with this completely. He just used to call him up and put him on a lead if he saw a golden Labrador.

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Two very easy ways of stopping this behaviour.

1st: Leave the dog at home when you go running.

2nd: Keep your dog on a lead if you do take it.

Problem solved.

I reckon it's true though Cosd - My "boss" dog was attacked by a Jack Russell and a Collie on separate occasions and hates both breeds with a very fierce and uncharacteristic intensity. If one of them turns up at the park, she gets put on the lead and i let the other owners know - As a general rule they will clall their dogs away and life goes on lovely.

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that was helpful!

My thoughts, don't bother if your gonna reply like that.

 

I have somewhat corrected this with one of mine, it was a long process of getting hold of her and taking her back to sit beside me (all off lead) when it happens, I only told her off as it was happening and praise once by my side, over time I would walk her to heal passed other dogs she didn't get on with and slowly she got the message. She has the occasional slip up but on the whole is fine now. Hope it helps

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I reckon it's true though Cosd - My "boss" dog was attacked by a Jack Russell and a Collie on separate occasions and hates both breeds with a very fierce and uncharacteristic intensity. If one of them turns up at the park, she gets put on the lead and i let the other owners know - As a general rule they will clall their dogs away and life goes on lovel

 

I don't think it's a breed thing since he see's other pointers occasionally and plenty of black labs, he treats these the same as any other dog.

His issue is specifically for these 3 dogs, but there is no history there which is what's confusing.

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that was helpful!

I can see and understand that you didn't want to read what cocker boy wrote..........but look at worst case scenario. Your dog gets in to a fight and the other dogs owner tries to intervene and gets bitten. You get reported and the dog takes its final visit to the vet leaving you to wonder if cocker boys suggestion was the best advice you'd ever been given.

 

Surely you owe your dog a long and happy life....even though that may be on a lead when these other three dogs are present.

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Sorry Cos but cocker boy is spot on , if your dog is likely to be agressive to other dogs then do not put it in a position where it is able to be , that means on a lead .

Surely if it is a public park that is where it should be on one anyway ?

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I can see and understand that you didn't want to read what cocker boy wrote..........but look at worst case scenario. Your dog gets in to a fight and the other dogs owner tries to intervene and gets bitten. You get reported and the dog takes its final visit to the vet leaving you to wonder if cocker boys suggestion was the best advice you'd ever been given.

 

Surely you owe your dog a long and happy life....even though that may be on a lead when these other three dogs are present.

Unfortunately without a programme of resocialisation from an expert in these issues and the full cooperation of the owners of the dogs things aren't going to change - and it's unlikely to happen. I am also with cocker boy, after all you would be absolutely mortified if anybody or a dog got hurt.

 

It's a shame I know but better than the consequences :(

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If it were me I would keep the dog on lead at all times until you feel this issue is resolved. Knowingly taking it out with these issues should something happen you could lose everything with the new dog laws that came in over past couple of years. It is a shame but there is a risk there and to ignore it would be negligent. Maybe some help from a kennel with socialisation could identify if its a breed in perticular he dislikes.

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Since having him I have only ever seen him show aggressive behaviour with three dogs, but its the same dogs and none of these dogs have been aggressive with him.

 

 

Dogs can pick up on the smallest thing, an aggressive behaviour isn't necessary something that we detect. I have a very dog aggressive GS bitch that has taken the best part of a year to get to a point that she will behave with other dogs 80% of the time. She'll never be let off the lead in public. Personally I don't consider this a problem. Have you considered getting a longer lead for running?

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Ok guys, first thanks for the input.

Though this is my first gun dog it's not my first dog. I'm a responsible person and wouldn't put myself or the dog in a situation it shouldn't be.

 

Let me start again.

 

My dog hasn't been in any fights. It isn't aggressive with other dogs. The last time it showed aggression was about six months ago with this same dog. There are two other dogs which I have had the same experience.

 

A black lab which gets walked down our road, my dog had growled twice at it. The other pointer we haven't seen in over a year, but when my wife saw the owner on quite a few occasions my wife was nervous because again mine showed aggression by growling to that particular dog.

 

He is walked three times a day every day and is let off the lead to socialise and play at least twice a week. If anyone knows Trent Park, it's enormous, and to say that you will bump into two hundred dogs in a single walk is not an exaggeration.

 

The point of my post was to ask what could be the trigger for the behaviour. It isn't random aggression, it's three particular dogs.

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Really u should be taking cocker boys suggestion and training the dog to run to 'heel' on a long line or even without, but it needs to be running under ur comtrol and not doing wot it wants (ie running in front and waiting for u)

 

U may find that with the black lab ur dog was defending its territory in the garden, hence the growl, possibly socialising the 2 together on nuetral ground may help but really need to be careful and needs oth owners to be there and very controled.

 

This may seem crazy advice but try watching the 'dog whisper' prgram on tv, he regularly cures problems like this and makes it look easy, possibly the dog could be picking up on UR nervousness making it nervous and growling to keep the dog away from u to protect u? So the more nervous u become the worse the dog will be Esp if the dog is on a lead and u are nervous the dog will pick up on it

 

Dunno if the fact the other 2 are pointers means much, possibly have a similar ndependent headstrong attitude and they may be ranging further (and not wanting to be cheeky) but they do tend to be harder to train and generally have a different outlook on life to other dogs, just the way the breeds/individuals often are

Possibly if u see the dogs coming or try to arrange a meeting on purpose sit ur dog down and let the dog pass, do the other dogs respond? If he growls give him a row but really this is not the sort of advice u can pick up of the net really need a decent trainer to watch ur dog and figure out the reason/trigger

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My youngest Springer has a bit of an issue with a couple of dogs where she runs full tilt at them barking and pulling away last second. I see no reason why she does this, she had a bad experiance when she was a pup with a couple of greyhounds and thats all i can think of. I am trying to sort this by walking her on a lead where i know i will meet lots of dogs and given praise or correction when needed.

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Cosd there is a fair bit true in this thread. My older gwp can be similar, and only with very few dogs but in a way she won't start it but she would like to finish it, her pup is nothing like it but also doesn't have the same edge on foxes and deer.

With her if there is a dog that dislikes her then my approach usually depends on the owner, keeping them close and ignoring her while talking to the owner usually results in them calming down and slowly getting on better. Ultimately though I have to watch her and stay one step ahead to make sure she is under control. It's rare and she is very well socialised never does it in a beaters wagon but I know there is the chance. I also actually wouldn't have her any other way as she detects the same in people and has a similar approach to ******

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its the same with my fox terrier..

 

hes fine with 90% of dogs, but if he sees a staffi or a akita theres trouble.

 

he screams and snarls at them from the other side of the road, put him with any other dog and its play time..

 

he just hates those dogs.

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like others have said my springer bitch is the same,she got attacked a few times by snappy russels n yorkies,i,m sure this is what caused the issues some dogs she simply hates and others she plays all day with,on the shoot she mixes ok with the other dogs,so strange dogs in the vicinity slip lead on no issues then,there is a male springer nearby who gets on great with mine but he,s the same certain dogs he hates an will fight them.

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It was I thought. I was not trying to be funny or sarcastic but the solution to your problem is as simple as i said.

 

I thought it a fair and helpful comment to make at least until a definitive and total fix is found its the right thing to do.

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Two very easy ways of stopping this behaviour.

1st: Leave the dog at home when you go running.

2nd: Keep your dog on a lead if you do take it.

Problem solved.

 

Whilst this has been perceived as a bit obvious, or direct by some, I would have to agree with it.

 

Case in point, we have an old working Collie, 14, and retired. As she has got older, she has become less tolerant of "certain" other dogs. It seems that the less Collie like the other dog, the more intolerant her response. She will play like a pup with other collies!

 

Given her working pedigree, and the obvious obedience that goes with it, this has only really become an issue as she is now going slightly deaf, so, she goes on a lead now near other dogs. Since she has become myopic too (!), then it has become quite easy, because we see the other dogs before she does !!

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