ROYLE11 Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Hi my friend has been given this by his old uncle and has been trying to find out a bit about it he has taken it to our local gunsmith/ auctioneers and they have never seen anything like it. It has tipping and lawden of London on the rib it also has patient no 3291 and 1876 engraved on the top It has a under leaver for opening the barrels and it also cocks the hammers at the same time.Any info would be gratefully received Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Pic's would be good. I have a 4 barrelled Derringer pistol by Tipping and Lawden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROYLE11 Posted May 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 I am tryimng to upload pics but not having much luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROYLE11 Posted May 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 First pic will get more on now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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matone Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 The patentees were Thomas Tipping Lawden and his manager John Thomas according to The British Shotgun vol 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longspoon Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Wow....I like this a lot...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Old guns are always interesting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROYLE11 Posted May 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 yes it's a cracking gun my mate just wants to find out a bit more about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Never seen one like that before .One of many patent actions of the 1860's/1870's all trying to build a successful hammerless action that were all superseded buy the Gibb's and Pitt patent and later Anson and Deeley's box lock by Westley Richards . I have been in the gun trade a lot of years and it is pleasing that even now I come across gun actions I have never seen before and one in particular I never want to see again but that's another story . That said today I saw a single trigger I have only ever seen photos of and a type of forend push rod spring that was different to any other I'd seen before . I would be very interested to see yours with the stock off . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 The patent drawing shows a trigger plate action with hammers cocked by vertical extension of the cocking lever .A vertically mounted vee spring acts on the lever to return it. Hth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanWalker Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 That is fascinating. Great to see these old actions. Tipping and Lawden were a biggish concern and one of the original 20 founders of Birmingham Small Arms. John Thomas was a prolific inventor and patentee. As a company they made all types of guns and some of the top-end ones are up there with the best in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROYLE11 Posted May 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 My friends uncle told him it has been used to shoot everything except geese he has a couple of boxes of bismuth so I think he may try and rectify this come September Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 I`d be getting it checked by a competent gunsmith first,you`re talking about a gun that`s probably blackpowder proofed and may not be in safe condition ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris1961 Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Love the damascus barrels the gun looks a bute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROYLE11 Posted May 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 They are blackpowder cartridges cost a fortune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Crikey, either BP or Bismuth = expensive ,I can imagine BP Bismuth are eye wateringly costly ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROYLE11 Posted May 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 O yes they were if his wife finds out it won't be pretty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Best treat like mushrooms, them wives........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossEM Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 The patentees were Thomas Tipping Lawden and his manager John Thomas according to The British Shotgun vol 2. My manager is a complete John Thomas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorismyhero Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 My manager is a complete John Thomas. are you sure he's complete...there could be some bits missing....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROYLE11 Posted May 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Ha ha I agree the least they know the better Thanks for the info every one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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