phillips321 Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Hi guys, Notice my miroku ORE is loose between the barrels and the action when closed. Any ideas on the following: Is this a safety problem? How is this fixed? (It's an old gun) Are there different ways of fixing it? Any idea of a competent but cheap gunsmith in Gloucestershire? Thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 The sooner you get it fixed the cheaper the bill will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 It is most definitely a safety issue.get a competent gunsmith to do the repair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Bites are out mate, get a cheap fix. In other words Don't get ripped off. Fixed one a few weeks back, Soolid as a Rock now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillips321 Posted May 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Any chance of a more details explanation? I don't know what the bites are or even how much it'll be to fix them. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Took me about 1 hour to fix, it just means the metal is missing. As an old gunsmith said to me 50 years ago, Always Add, Never subtract.. Very TRUE.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjimlad Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Nigel Teague in Tortworth would be my choice for sorting out your gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Should not be an expensive fix ,but needs doing ASAP . Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Took me about 1 hour to fix, it just means the metal is missing. As an old gunsmith said to me 50 years ago, Always Add, Never subtract.. Very TRUE.. yes. How very true and an easy job to sort out if you have the art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 UK Gun Repairs - Sage on here - if he still visits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilR Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Nigel Teague in Tortworth would be my choice for sorting out your gun.I agree👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 The bite is the term used for the action of the locking bolt engaging into the slot on the barrel . What needs to be done is for the gun to be stripped down and the bolt removed . When tis is done the forend should be tightened sufficiently to feel stiff when the gun is opened it then needs to be checked for clearances between the barrel wings and the action so that it is not bearing . The bolt then needs to be welded up and recut to the correct angle as well dressing the bite on the barrel to ensure there are no steps so the bolt engages correctly . This done the gun can then be reassembled and adjusted with the stock on for smooth opening and to check there is no binding or sticking when the lever is opened . Who said it only takes an hour ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 The bite is the term used for the action of the locking bolt engaging into the slot on the barrel . What needs to be done is for the gun to be stripped down and the bolt removed . When tis is done the forend should be tightened sufficiently to feel stiff when the gun is opened it then needs to be checked for clearances between the barrel wings and the action so that it is not bearing . The bolt then needs to be welded up and recut to the correct angle as well dressing the bite on the barrel to ensure there are no steps so the bolt engages correctly . This done the gun can then be reassembled and adjusted with the stock on for smooth opening and to check there is no binding or sticking when the lever is opened . Who said it only takes an hour ? I was Pretty Quick at work Mate, But the way you have put it I think 4 is more like it. I have made new bolts before now but it is only if the gap in the bolt has worn to excessive degree, horses for courses you might say. No doubt we all have our way of doing things I suppose, No offence meant, and hope none taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Non at all, please bear in mind this is my living and I've been at for over 45 years .Like in all trades there are things that , shall we say the enthusiast , may not think of that can have some affect on the finished job . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Checkout this video - one section shows an effective repair for a loose action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 This American and should not be taken seriously . If you put a .010" shim in the hook that's .010" at the back but .020" top to bottom .Now its basic engineering that you can not put a 1" plug in 1" hole so how will the joint pin bear in the back of the hook as it is supposed to ? This guy is a well meaning but really knows very little about gun smithing and I would not allow him any where near gun of mine . He has not even stripped the gun down before hand . Sorry but I rejoint guns on a regular basis ,4 to do for proof next week with either new joint pins or TIG welding and re-cutting the hooks dependent on the action. This is not the way to do it . What we used to call an "auctioneers" rejoint in the trade using the foil out of a cigarette packet.Not good at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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