Mungler Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 I've just bought a D plate 1986 Merc. The car is not in bad shape - it's previously been garaged and not had any paint work before. However, it's just starting to bubble up and go in the usual places. I get through cars like a drunk through Special Brew, but this one's a keeper and at the end of summer I want to book it in somewhere for some love - underseal, wax oil, every rust treatment known to mankind and paint as required. There's no mad rush on getting it done so someone can do it as and when as a hospital job. The car has T&T and doesn't need trailering. Cheers all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andypaint Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 (edited) I've been painting cars and own a bodyshop for 15 years now. Unfortunately if your planning on keeping it, then the rust must be either cut out and new metal welding in, or you best start looking for new panels. Rust killer's are a bodge and just delay the inevitable rust for a few months. It all depends on where the rust is mainly, but car restoration isn't cheap mainly due to labour costs. Waxoil is terrible messy stuff, we use epoxy primer if metal sound, followed stone chip, then dinitrol pumped into sills and cavities. Generally the most cost effective way is to replace the rusty panels and prepare the replacements correctly. I'm in North Wales Edited June 7, 2015 by andypaint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted June 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 Andy, whereabouts are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilR Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 Was ME happy with the work he had done on my old Porsche? Whoever did that will be your neck of the woods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted June 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 Good point Phil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 What model? I waft about in a e300 d from 1995 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnytheboy Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 I'd agree with Andy, only one way to deal with rust is to cut out the section, it will come back. Same as andy I have worked in a bodyshop all my life and watched bodge rust jobs go wrong every time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimgary Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 Cut out rust, replace metal, etch prime to get a good bond with metal then appropiate paint treatment as required, think they may have still been using cellulose paint in those years, ( needs testing) IMHO 2 pack looks so false on classic cars, watched it done to a e type restoration I was involed with and I got ignored about 2 pack?, bosses mistake customer most unhappy with finish! Much prefer a stone chip finish uner neath as opposed to underseal, it wall also take a top coat of original colour. Regards Gary. Prev car restorer, E types, morris, mgb's and other classics, lotus cortinas mk1 and 2, 1600e, scimitars,jensen interceptors. Kind Regards Gary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted June 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 (edited) I bought an R107 Merc 300 SL It's got 3 owners, FSH and 135k on the clock. I bought it for £9k off a bloke in London who advertised it in the wrong section of auto trader and who needed it gone because he had 1 parking permit and had just bought a new Range Rover. I'll never get another one like it for the same money and their values are climbing. It is also a nice whafting Merc to drive. And here we go, and no, that's not my drive its on [/url] . Edited June 7, 2015 by Mungler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_seagrave Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 That's a beauty, Mungler. Well spotted, definitely a keeper. LS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted June 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 The car is just about starting to "go". The MOT is due July and I booked it in early - it needs the usual consumables discs, pads, exhaust (and I reckon that lot will smart a touch) but there's a small patch of welding to be done to a cill and there's rust bubbling through on the far edges of all wheel arches etc. The accountant in me is saying spend nothing but the minimum to get an MOT, drive it for this summer and then turn it in the last week when the sun is shining. It's the depressing realisation that it's a battle against rust that can't realistically ever be won (and as such is this something worth throwing money at?). It always makes me laugh when you see classic cars for sale and advertised as having been fully restored 15 years ago at huge expense and with a foot note that the vehicle is now in need of another go with the restorers. I reckon classic car ownership / restoration should be tax deductible - of all the people I know with expensive old cars that have been restored (from Aston Martins to Jags to chrome bumber Rolls Royce Corniche Convertibles) I would say that not one is "in front" with the money, no matter how posey and expensive the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 That's a very nice car, always wanted one of those in Red. Do it well and it should increase in value rather than constantly need work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) Stick it into Wayne Gates in Harrow and get them to check the whole car over, Terry will give you a straight but honest rundown on the whole car, and all the options. One thing that never ceases to amaze me is how cheap parts for Mercedes cars often are when you buy them from the proper sources http://www.bestpartstore.co.uk/mercedes-benz Wayne Gates are a legend in the Merc world. I would never take my Mercs anywhere else. Stay away from Main agents like the plague your car is older than the mechanics and they never will have seen one before. . Back street repairers can actually devalue the car. They are very close to a main line station so you can easily get a train back into London after you have dropped it off http://www.mbclub.co.uk/forums/mercedes-specialists-across-uk/157020-wayne-gates-harrow.html Edited June 9, 2015 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Mungler- Hart to Hart car? Stephanie Powers....Bingo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 that's a pretty car, I have to drop my works van off at the yard tomorrow and need a lift home Mung, any chance you could give me a lift? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 £9k ? Think you were done Mung, theres no bloody roof on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 http://avclassiccarsltd.co.uk/ these guys have just done some great work for me, and very well priced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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