ian_in_the_midlands Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 When tuning a springer (in my case an HW95K) to under 12 ft lbs, what is the advantage of spring like the titan XS over the standard Weihrauch item? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycho Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 If you want to tune it Get a v.Mach kit which contains a better spring. adjustment shims.guides. piston head.oils and greases etc it will transform your gun it will be smooth to cock and have instant lock time there are other kits available but I have always found the v.Mach gear to be spot on if you want to ruin a perfectly good gun slap in an ox spring and it will be transformed to a gun that will shake its self to bits but it will feel powerful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_in_the_midlands Posted July 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 I have a little lathe, and want to treat the tune-up as a bit of a project. I am just wondering should I use the standard spring or something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 If you have a lathe make a bespoke spring guide for which ever spring you choose and that will be the best fundamental advance from factory ever! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 The vmach kit has a special spring with less coils and removes pretension. very hard to beat IMHO If you want to do you own, why not keep the existing spring and shorten it if required? I assume UD is talking about a top=hat guide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_in_the_midlands Posted July 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 Perhaps I asked the wrong question. Rather than "what is the advantage of spring like the titan XS over the standard Weihrauch item?" I should have asked the question: Is there an advantage of a spring like the titan XS over the standard Weihrauch item? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 Nowt really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_in_the_midlands Posted July 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 That has saved me £20 then - Ta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Leaving aside the obvious probable power output situation? I would add that having received and used both the difference in quality was astounding, the Titan being a professionally finished spring in all respects. The Weihrauch spring direct from Hull cartridge was an utter joke, looking like it had been cut to length with an angle grinder and leaving ends so sharp they would have shredded any internals? I still have it somewhere and it's worth a photo when i find it? My immediate thought was of a long spring from the factory roughly hacked into lengths at HC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Leaving aside the obvious probable power output situation? I would add that having received and used both the difference in quality was astounding, the Titan being a professionally finished spring in all respects. The Weihrauch spring direct from Hull cartridge was an utter joke, looking like it had been cut to length with an angle grinder and leaving ends so sharp they would have shredded any internals? I still have it somewhere and it's worth a photo when i find it? My immediate thought was of a long spring from the factory roughly hacked into lengths at HC? So possibly not a HW product! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Leaving aside the obvious probable power output situation? I would add that having received and used both the difference in quality was astounding, the Titan being a professionally finished spring in all respects. The Weihrauch spring direct from Hull cartridge was an utter joke, looking like it had been cut to length with an angle grinder and leaving ends so sharp they would have shredded any internals? I still have it somewhere and it's worth a photo when i find it? My immediate thought was of a long spring from the factory roughly hacked into lengths at HC? I think SAM mentioned this "hacking" seen on a Wierhauch gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_in_the_midlands Posted July 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 I have had the gun apart and the spring is not finished too badly. It was also very slightly pinched in one end. This has been remedied with a file, and I have polished the ends up further. I was very surprised by how little preload was on the spring. How could a stiffer spring be used without going over the limit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Some use to shorten the stroke and use a stronger spring. A heavier or longer spring has to be trimmed for legal reasons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbower Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 I have a V mach'd 95k, and it is superb. I also replaced the standard HW Spring in my 80, with a Titan XS, cut to 23 coils , and finished properly that gives 11.1 ft/lb. And is very smooth to shoot. If you have a lathe, buy some Delrin and make up a top hat, and spring guide. It will transform the gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 So possibly not a HW product! Possibly not but the spring was supplied by Hull Cartridge? ? Absolute carp! I suppose you never know what some get up to? Off to find it now for a photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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