nderfel Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 hi all, I am looking to take the plunge and buy myself a PCP rifle. I have a filling question that hopefully someone can answer... I also Scuba dive and have a 'a clamp' 15 ltr air cylinder (out of service) - assuming the rifle comes with a fill adapter what do I need to connect from the tank to my rifle? is it a case of using my diving first stage and a separate hose, is that possible or do I need to buy something? if I need to buy something do I need a pressure gauge or just a clamp and hose? also (sorry for the barrage of questions) until I have this sorted is it possible to get a fill direct from a dive shop or gunsmith? cheers Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineshooter Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Have a look here to see what will fit your set up http://www.midlanddiving.com/airgun-charging/gun-charging-kits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul taylor Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Hi. Not sure what you need without seeing your bottle etc. it will need to be in test as I'm sure you'll know already and yes most dive shops and gunsmith will be able to charge your rifle as long as you have the adapter for your rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) I charge from my diving cylinder which has a DIN fitting. The standard fitting/pipe that came with the air rifle does the job perfectly. I think you'd only need something special if you are on A-clamp fitting. EDIT : just read that you're on A clamp currently. You might be just as well getting a DIN surface-type valve fitted (ie. with gauge contents) when you have the tank tested, if you aren't using it for diving any more. That way the cylinder will only need a test every 5 years, rather than the 2.5 year diving test schedule. Edited July 14, 2015 by robbiep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetter Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 One thing mate what pressure is your dive cylinder running at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nderfel Posted July 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 cheers all, very useful Zetter, I'm not sure, its been a good 4 years since I dived and its been in the garage all that time, does it matter in terms of PCP filing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetter Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 A lot of older and BA type cylinders are generally only 204 bar which means that with a lot of modern PCPs you may struggle to get the fill pressure you need as a lot of the BSAs and Daystates run at 230ish bar. Most modern airgun filling cylinders currently are 300bar so you can get a fair few fills out of them if the cylinder is 204 bar you wont get many fills at full pressure even on 15ltrs before it needs topping up. A lot of gun shops especially if you buy the gun from them will refill FOC but unless you have a gun with a large shot capacity this can be a phenomenal pain in the bum if you plan to do any pinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 In general, you fill your gun to 180-200 bar (my Air arms is a bit variable on power above 180, so I stop there). So if you have a 232 cylinder, then it won't be a lot of fills until you aren't completely topping up the airgun cylinder. Of course, the flipside of that is that if you've got a 300bar main tank, and you crack the tank a bit too rapidly, you could overfill and possibly blow a seal. It all depends how much you think you'll shoot the gun, and how far away you are from somewhere to get your main cylinder topped up. In my case, I've got a 232 bar 10 litre, and I get 20 or so fills into my gun cylinder off that, which is a few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 it should be stamped somewhere around the top of your cylinder what BAR it is,, best bet is to take the cylinder in for test and get them to fit an A clamp and hose with gauge and away you go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Two things on the neck of the cylinder should grab your attention, TP means test pressure which is one and a half times the WP or Working Pressure which is what the bottle is refilled to! You will need a visual inspection at the least before it can be recharged, if not a full hydro test, but then you are good for 5 years. Your bottle can be anything up to 232 bar, so if you are running an Air Arms or in fact most unregulated rifles, you will be filling to 200 bar max, probably 180 bar in real life (in the sweet spot). If you are running a regulated buddy bottle rifle you will be a bit stuffed as they usually run at 232 bar. Best Fittings sell A clamp charging adaptors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nderfel Posted July 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 thanks gents.... the rifle (a walter rm8) fell through anyway so its back to the drawing board for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esca Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 Try these guys. They where really helpful and based in Gillingham http://www.bestfittings.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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