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Lol, i like jack russels but i think pigeons or rabbits are to big

I have a patterdale terrier and he can easily carry a large rabbit. Whether the rabbit would be good for anything by the time you get it from him is a different matter!

I would have thought a Nova Scotia Duck tolling retriever is the smallest of the true retrievers.

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Lol, i like jack russels but i think pigeons or rabbits are to big

 

with my own eyes I have seen a pink plucked from the tide and pulled back up the bank by a Border Terrier. My mates mum has a terrier that picks up pheasant on their shoot. The leg length prevents a true carry of larger game but I have never seen one quit once it sets its mind to something getting shifted by dragging. Mine could carry rabbits just far enough away so I couldn't get them before they were eaten :lol:

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Theres an old bloke on a shoot where I pick up and he has a jack russel as his peg dog. I have to say it marks birds and retrieves them perfectly. First time I saw it I thought all kinds of things would get mauled but I have to say it's alright and alot better trained than most the other dogs.

 

Smallest gundog breed is a cockerlier (Cavalier x cocker). :whistling:

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I would have thought a Nova Scotia Duck tolling retriever is the smallest of the true retrievers.

 

Guess it depends on how true of a small retriever you're talking about - this here be 25 pounds of sho' 'nuff honest truth retriever

 

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called the Boykin Spaniel. Which like the Irish Water Spaniel, is recognized as a retriever in North America and rather justifiably so.

 

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Believe there were a couple of Boykins in the vicinity of Tamworth some years back and a Yank airman had one maybe at Chicksands? But Boykins are only recently "getting into the public eye" from their native realm of South Carolina, for which they "serve" as official state dog. Recognized by the (A)KC in the last decade. They play well above their weight as retrievers, but they make their crust as the smallest retriever on the smallest gamebird, the mourning dove

 

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which leads one to believe they also would be a smashing success worked from the hide on wood pigeon.

 

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Maybe not cocker or ESS "good" as a good flushing dog, but good good just the same. Especially on ruffed grouse and - naturally, within their spaniel purview - on brer rabbit. The Boykin's other speciality is as "the little dog that doesn't rock the boat" - you wildfowl hunt them out of a canoe or pirogue without a ripple, then you scoop them right back into the bow of the boat with you after they've delivered the duck. Most of that's done in streams or creeks, but they ain't terribly bashful about "rougher seas" when it comes to retrieving

 

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I actually thought a NSDT was not actually a true retriever other than in name, where originally worked with the commercial nets and would sort of drive/walk the duck/wildfowl into the catching area at the up stream side. Think it worked because they are fox coloured and duck would quietly swim away from the 'fox' and into the catching area. Think 1 still works the nets at slimbridge? or some big wildfowl reserve.

 

My mates got a couple of Irish water spaniels and he's got them to a very good standard, but he put a hell of a work into them to get them to that standard, could put 50% of the work into a lab to get to a similar standard

 

U won't really get much smaller than a cocker or modern FT springer, and to be honest in my opinion the modern FT breeding some of the dogs are actually too small now, a small cocker/springer does almost struggle with a large cock pheasant or hare esp over rough ground or heavy vegetation

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I actually thought a NSDT was not actually a true retriever other than in name, where originally worked with the commercial nets and would sort of drive/walk the duck/wildfowl into the catching area at the up stream side. Think it worked because they are fox coloured and duck would quietly swim away from the 'fox' and into the catching area. Think 1 still works the nets at slimbridge? or some big wildfowl reserve.

 

My mates got a couple of Irish water spaniels and he's got them to a very good standard, but he put a hell of a work into them to get them to that standard, could put 50% of the work into a lab to get to a similar standard

 

U won't really get much smaller than a cocker or modern FT springer, and to be honest in my opinion the modern FT breeding some of the dogs are actually too small now, a small cocker/springer does almost struggle with a large cock pheasant or hare esp over rough ground or heavy vegetation

 

+ 1 the modern cocker is more of a toy breed in my eyes.
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