Spaniel Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Well this season I am going North with a few wildfowling mates on pw to hopefully have our first go at the pinks We are going with a mate who as shot the Tay before so really looking forward to this so it's going to be an adventure I am also keen on having ago at shooting pinks over stubble around the Lincolnshire area so if anyone can assist with any info regarding opportunities for 3 to 4 guns it would be really appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 You want to come to the wash to shoot pinks over stubble? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted August 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Cheers Big Mat Are there any particular time which would be best over that way to have ago at them on the stubble we just don't get them down our way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 I don't think Mat is looking to help you out , Your chances of shooting pinks on stubble in our area is somewhere between very slim and nil. If you want to shoot a wash pink pretty much all the wash clubs offer day permits for shooting on the foreshore , late October / Nov being a good time as a rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted August 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Cheers fenboy didn't think mat was offering but just looking for some info Will take a look at the permit book and maybe plan a trip up that way on the foreshore but I also do want to have ago at them over stubble this season so looking for any info regarding this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Cheers fenboy didn't think mat was offering but just looking for some info Will take a look at the permit book and maybe plan a trip up that way on the foreshore but I also do want to have ago at them over stubble this season so looking for any info regarding this If you really want to shoot them over stubble then your best bet would be Scotland rather than Lincolnshire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joknob Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 mat would never help anyone out,,,just clever remarks,if you want any sense ask someone else. craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted August 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 We are up on the river tay week of Oct 20th for 4 days wildfowling so maybe we may find something up that way to give some stubble shooting ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 mat would never help anyone out,,,just clever remarks,if you want any sense ask someone else. craig I thought you two had kissed and made up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony G Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 mat would never help anyone out,,,just clever remarks,if you want any sense ask someone else. craig I think you will find Mat was just saying how difficult it is to get shooting for decoyed pinks in that area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 I think you will find Mat was just saying how difficult it is to get shooting for decoyed pinks in that area I don't think he would have been Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony G Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 I don't think he would have been . Am I missing something ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 . Am I missing something ? Yes geese usually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Do you want to shoot Pinks over stubble in Scotland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 can I ask what is special about pinks on stubble? I fully get someone who has no access to them on their foreshore wanting a go at them on another marsh I just don't get crossing pinkfoot off your list inland so much of the magic and challenge is gone. If its a first time it should be special (like other things in life) I do know were you can pay for this in my home county of Lancashire but just consider things like the BASC permit or the Scottish foreshore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 I have never shot a Pink over decoys but I can see where the attraction is in watching the skeins at a distance , then using your field craft , calling skill and whatever it take to bring them within range to where your waiting in your hide , weather it is beyond nets , bales or down the edge of dyke or river bank ,I can imagine it must be quite exciting . But I have shot more than my share flighting out to there feeding fields at dawn , going back to there roosting grounds at dusk and being out half the night under the moon .and that is the only way I have shot them and the only way I want to shoot them . I know you cant compare pigeons to Geese but I wouldn't want to shoot pigeons over decoys if they were the size of Geese . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hifly Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 shooting geese over stubbles is like taking candy from a baby, the last few seasons it has been going on in north Norfolk and to see skiens of pinks going inland only to hear 10 to 20 shots ring out 2 minutes later and watch the geese fleeing the area after a few days of this is totally wrong, most of it being paid for by chinless tossers who go out with the keepers before a days pheasant shooting no respect for such a magnificent bird and I bet most are shot with lead. and yes I have shot a lot of geese but all below the tide line where field craft and knowing your quarry and the weather is the key to success. so if you really want a go at the pinks book a week or two on the wash do your field craft get under there flight lines in the right weather up to your nuts in mud and water and if you are really really lucky you might just might get a pull at them and when you have worked so hard for a pink and bagged a pink then you will might just realise what wildfowling is and it is not shooting them over stubbles. Tin hat has now been put on so ready for incoming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) shooting geese over stubbles is like taking candy from a baby, the last few seasons it has been going on in north Norfolk and to see skiens of pinks going inland only to hear 10 to 20 shots ring out 2 minutes later and watch the geese fleeing the area after a few days of this is totally wrong, most of it being paid for by chinless tossers who go out with the keepers before a days pheasant shooting no respect for such a magnificent bird and I bet most are shot with lead. and yes I have shot a lot of geese but all below the tide line where field craft and knowing your quarry and the weather is the key to success. so if you really want a go at the pinks book a week or two on the wash do your field craft get under there flight lines in the right weather up to your nuts in mud and water and if you are really really lucky you might just might get a pull at them and when you have worked so hard for a pink and bagged a pink then you will might just realise what wildfowling is and it is not shooting them over stubbles. Tin hat has now been put on so ready for incoming. No incoming from me , I have shot the odd goose inland in years past but never in any numbers just the odd one or two now and again when I fancied eating one. I have shot none since I started wildfowling proper and my first geese from the foreshore are so much more special for me , I very much doubt I will shoot pinks inland again , maybe one under the moon possibly. I have had opportunity to shoot an awful lot at times and have always passed the chance up. These pictures were taken literally from my back door . Edited August 24, 2015 by fenboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 I have only ever shot one pink inland. That was miles from the marsh, less than a mile from Raf Marham. I was out pigeon shooting. I wouldn't mind shooting a few decoyed pinks, though I wouldn't really want to shoot too many and I would try to pick the more sporting birds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farma Geddon Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 I don't think it is an awful thing to do if you show restraint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 I don't think it is an awful thing to do if you show restraint. I agree , trouble is some people just cannot ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Same with most types of decoying things move on , we hear of the days when they painted milk bottles for pigeon decoying and my early ones were grey plastic guttering cut to shape round the head with a drop of White undercoat on the neck bars , then as time moved on we ended up with the assortment of decoys that are on the market now. In Kenzies days according to his book he used clods of soil with a bit of white newspaper then relied on his calling skill and field craft to bring them in range . I have seen his decoys which he made out of ply wood with a bolt in the neck so they could be used in a standing or feeding position , they were painted a bit crudely but in his hands they must have accounted for a lot of Geese Now the decoys are life like , stack on top of each offer and easy to cart from a to b , on top of that I watched a couple of chaps using a rotary with the cloth goose decoys on and from a distance it really did look like geese dropping in to there mates already on the ground . I watched a little group of four come over the estuary wall a fair way up and then the calling started , they were either very good at calling geese or they were using a recorder as the sound was nigh on perfect . you could see the geese straining there necks to see where it was coming from , once they saw the movement there time was nearly up , there wings went down and they were already looking to find a landing place amongst the decoys , whilst they were making there minds up over top of the magnet four shots rang out and four Pinks more or less hit the deck at the same time . I had seen enough , but give the blokes credit they could shoot straight and looked like they knew what they were doing, but it didn't appeal to me . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) As others have said nothing can compare with shooting pinks on the foreshore. Inland you do not get the excitement of the pinks calling in the darkness as the flocks wake up, the magic as the duck and shore birds start to move with the growing light and then the pleasure of the sun rise over the mud’s or flowing tide. Shooting is almost a bi product of the wildfowling experience. You have work out where the geese are roosting, how the tide will move them during the night what flight line they will take and how the wind will effect it and when it all comes together and your pink foot is falling to thump onto the marsh there is so much more satisfaction than any goose shot inland. But that is not to say goose shooting is not good fun , it is , but its a different sort of fun. For many years I scorned shooting pinks inland, my first experience of it in the Fens did not change my mind, yes I did get a few birds, but the excitement was not there and despite several offers I did not shoot a pink inland for another 30 years. However as I got older and following a serious illness my days slogging miles across the saltmarsh got few and fewer. Quite apart from the effort of the trek over mud and marsh there was a risk of getting to trouble when alone with a rising tide. A few years ago I had the chance to rejoin a marshland shoot that was run by a couple of close friends , both of whom I had known for 40 years and had shared many foreshore adventures on the coast. I had been a member of the shoot back in the 1970s , but changing jobs and moving across the county made it no longer to practical for me. However a change in lifestyle and more time on my hands made it once more viable even if it did mean a long drive for the morning flight. The shoot had changed. Back in the 1970s it was very much a mallard shoot , but now the water management resulted in parts of the marshes flooding most winters and the pinks , all but absent in the 1970s now had moved into the area in big numbers and at times thousands would roost on the floodwater on the shoot. With 100s of acres of grass marshes decoys were necessary to bring the geese within range other wise they could settle almost anywhere. We had a strict set of rules, only 3 or 4 morning flights at them each season , no more than 4 pinks per gun and we left the marsh by 9am whether we had a goose or not. Though a few additional geese were shot at evening flight when we were after the wigeon. The real skill lay in guessing what part of the marsh they would to feed on , but other wise it is all pretty easy compared with foreshore shooting. Once they locked onto the decoys you knew you were going to get a shot with or without the help of wind or weather. I have known when every skein we saw at morning flight come into the decoys. The shots were usually quite easy unlike the foreshore when your feet were held in the mud like glue and on more than one occasion I lost my footing swinging onto a flaring bird. However now in my mid sixties I can still enjoy a pink foot flight safely and it is a luxury to have my mate drive up after flight in his 4x4 to load the decoys , hide and with luck any geese into the back with the knowledge I no longer have to face the long walk march back across the marsh. And perhaps the best part of the flight is when we get back to the marsh gates and sit back in a warm car and enjoy watching the late incoming geese pouring into the area we had just vacated while sipping piping hot coffee and bacon sandwiches. I would say this to anyone wishing to shoot pinks, chase them inland if you must , but with restraint , but to get real satisfaction turn to the foreshore for the cream of the sport. Edited August 24, 2015 by anser2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted August 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Hi guys Don't get me wrong I bloody love wildfowling for the pure reason of loving the foreshore and the art of calling a duck or goose in range which is the primary goal for the trip but at the same time I fancy an outing over stubble which I have only really done once before up at orkney on the greylags but as I have never heard or seen a pink I just wanted to give it a try. Cheers ian and thanks for all of the reply guys appreciate it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.5x55SE Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 To much " Bull Poop " wrote and believed about Inland Goose shooting and mainly by people who have never done it. Like any form of shooting may it be with Rifle or Shotgun can at times be easy. I've taken Farma Geddon and Muncher inland after Pink"s and I'm confident both would say it was NOT the Goose floping into Decoy shooting they had probably expected in fact in can remember BOTH of them saying it was some of the most sporting and difficult Pinks they had shot and they have shot plenty on the foreshore. Again the mith about there easy as your not stuck in Mud !!!!!! Well ask those to Gents on there opion I feel very very lucky in that I have some superb Goose shooting both Inland and Foreshore on many occasions I've chose to go on the Foreshore knowing I've got Thousands Inland do I find killing Geese inland easier than on the foreshore !!!!!! Hand on heart NO. After all a 50yrd Goose Inland or Foreshore you still have to hit it in the right place to bag your Goose. Another thing apart from size colour name etc Goose is know different to a Duck Pigeon it has feathers skin internal organs lives and Fly's and us as shooters take there lives YET plenty moaning and condemning think nothing of shooting Ducks and Pigeon on stubbles and plenty of them to. If it's not for you fine but don't go knocking those that shoot Inland unless you're got good reason because believe it or not I'M the first to be on the case of some I've seen blackening the name of Inland Goose shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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