kevinw Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 To bore out .....hone... match pistons to bores....supply running in oil...bored out by 20thou.... providing i strip and deliver the block ...including VAT £ 128.00 not bad eh ! Can't grumble at that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 That's remarkably cheap for good pistons !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 That's remarkably cheap for good pistons !! thats not the piston price ...thats the boring out and honing...............already bought the pistons complete with rings and pins £60.00 each..they will go up with the block when im ready... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 im stuffed and my wrist has given out...couldnt start until after lunch.....head is in very good nick considering it has never been apart and it has done 175,000 miles...the hot spots all have given up ..but i have new ones for it anyway...bit of a heart stopper...one of the core plugs in the block had rotted...i thought it had messed the block up in the seating...power washed it scraped it out and jammed the small rotary brush into it washed it again and the block is fine...no damage whatsoever....will have to put the old drain cleaner down the block galleries...as it has never had antifreeze in it ...or not enough anyway................bit picture heavy will try to make a couple of posts ditch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rodp Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 thats not the piston price ...thats the boring out and honing...............already bought the pistons complete with rings and pins £60.00 each..they will go up with the block when im ready... Ah, that's more like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 ready to be worked on now.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 I have to ask ................. why? it was never a good engine and LR themselves admit it was a stopgap engine. The basic structure just isn't strong enough so they warp when asked to work hard. I can understand wanting originality but you have to draw the line at reliability, or will this motor just tootle around and go to the odd show etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 I have to ask ................. why? it was never a good engine and LR themselves admit it was a stopgap engine. The basic structure just isn't strong enough so they warp when asked to work hard. I can understand wanting originality but you have to draw the line at reliability, or will this motor just tootle around and go to the odd show etc? You are quite right it was a stopgap/transition engine........i dont show my vehicles i use them...my landrover is a tool ..and if you look after you tools they last...the 200 and 300 are very good LOW MAINTENANCE engines......all the ones after that are pointless....they are not built to be fixed in the field....they have become a lifestyle vehicle.... the TD 2.5 has the same crank ....same block as the 200 seris......the engine is a heavy old lump and if the pistons are fitted properly...it will work beautifully...........it dosnt like being driven over 60mph and that is what starts off the problems....you are turbo-charging an engine that dates back to the early 70's and without doing other stuff to it and expecting to drive it as fast as a car....sooner or later something is going to give................. ....i pull trees out of the woods ...haul heavy loads with it...and off road with it at least once/week...i never drive it above 50mph and it returns 28-30 mpg (fact)......when me and my farmer mate go off for a kentucky or something he always insists to go in my landrover...(he has a td5 and a new fangled one)...as the engine is so quiet... I have had landrovers since 1977 in the worst environments you could think of....and have NEVER BROKE DOWN ......simply because i check the oils water blah blah blah and dont wrag the vehicle...they have always brought me home...............my daughter has spent more in repairs and maintenance on her little citroen in one year than i have spent in 7 years on the turbo-deseil................ sorry i just like them............if you are not in a hurry and you like a quiet soft drive ...they are fine..............treat them like a car and they will cause problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 You are quite right it was a stopgap/transition engine........i dont show my vehicles i use them...my landrover is a tool ..and if you look after you tools they last...the 200 and 300 are very good LOW MAINTENANCE engines......all the ones after that are pointless....they are not built to be fixed in the field....they have become a lifestyle vehicle.... the TD 2.5 has the same crank ....same block as the 200 seris......the engine is a heavy old lump and if the pistons are fitted properly...it will work beautifully...........it dosnt like being driven over 60mph and that is what starts off the problems....you are turbo-charging an engine that dates back to the early 70's and without doing other stuff to it and expecting to drive it as fast as a car....sooner or later something is going to give................. ....i pull trees out of the woods ...haul heavy loads with it...and off road with it at least once/week...i never drive it above 50mph and it returns 28-30 mpg (fact)......when me and my farmer mate go off for a kentucky or something he always insists to go in my landrover...(he has a td5 and a new fangled one)...as the engine is so quiet... I have had landrovers since 1977 in the worst environments you could think of....and have NEVER BROKE DOWN ......simply because i check the oils water blah blah blah and dont wrag the vehicle...they have always brought me home...............my daughter has spent more in repairs and maintenance on her little citroen in one year than i have spent in 7 years on the turbo-deseil................ sorry i just like them............if you are not in a hurry and you like a quiet soft drive ...they are fine..............treat them like a car and they will cause problems Yep, I can see your point of view. I was under the impression the block design (webs / stiffeners) were altered for the 200 ? Part of the problem with them is the blocks thermal characteristics, it's self warping ?? I must admit to not being too well up on the intricacies of the turbo D as I had too many mates who lost engines when towing triallers around the country. It always seemed to happen when towing up long climbs, they just wouldn't take the continued slog uphill. I commend you however on sticking with it and best of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Yep, I can see your point of view. I was under the impression the block design (webs / stiffeners) were altered for the 200 ? Part of the problem with them is the blocks thermal characteristics, it's self warping ?? I must admit to not being too well up on the intricacies of the turbo D as I had too many mates who lost engines when towing triallers around the country. It always seemed to happen when towing up long climbs, they just wouldn't take the continued slog uphill. I commend you however on sticking with it and best of luck. You are spot on again...............the only time i have been careful was when i was towing sonething that should have been towed by a tractor up a long hill.........the temp gauge started to go up and the viscous fan still didnt cut in !!...........the first 200's i think added a "stiffner" to the block twixt the block and the sump.....i am looking at doing the same thing...will have to alter the oil pick up to do that lets face it ...the 2.5 N/A is a good basic engine....you could never "drive it like you stole it "...........then they slapped a turbo on it and everything went to cock !..........this one i am rebuilding has had one owner ...a pig farmer...it has towed pigs to market and feed trailers for 28 years.......and lived in mud !...it has never used water only had one change of nozzles and a timing belt....175,000 miles....it is only in the last month it started to spew oil...cause of the rotted oil feed pipe and the bores are glazed what i have is a 2.5 deseil with a turbo when i want it............parts are dirt cheap and it is sooo easy to work on................ you never know a museum might offer me big money for it one day as it is the last in the world !!!! as the post says "ditchman has lost it" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 I think you're right about having a 2.5 na and having a turbo now and then. If you drive it like that it should last. As I said before, top marks for trying anyway I hope it goes well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 (edited) I am always impressed, then again I know nothing about anything technical. Edited September 12, 2015 by JDog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 I am always impressed, then again I know nothing about anything technical. That makes two of us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 I am always impressed, then again I know nothing about anything technical. Be careful of this man.....he says he has little or zero knowledge of practical things.......yet builds sheds and makes hides like a master builder......and professes he is a mediocre shot........HHhmmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 ok its sunday and i got board....so i thought i would re-furb the vacumn pump which supplies the vacumn to the brakes.........cost £4.00.... job done............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 A good fitter wouldnt be without Hylomar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 A good fitter wouldnt be without Hylomar tend to use it more on gaskets............this has a nice "o" ring.....so a bit of vasenline ...bobs yer uncle.............the o ring i took out was a little bit stretched abd flattened ...so i popped it in boiling water for a couple of mins....jobs a gooden ...shunk back to size and regained its elasticity and shape..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Smoking kills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Smoking kills not rizlas................emergency toilet paper...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 tend to use it more on gaskets............this has a nice "o" ring.....so a bit of vasenline ...bobs yer uncle.............the o ring i took out was a little bit stretched abd flattened ...so i popped it in boiling water for a couple of mins....jobs a gooden ...shunk back to size and regained its elasticity and shape..... Still got a box of CAT o rings somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 werent CAT "o" rings made differently.......seem to remember they were "rolled" rather than injection molded...............they always lasted longer than the other type ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redditch Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 eat poo and die......................... when your nissan rots and coughs its last....whats left they will melt down and make the odd nut and bolt for mine.................. But then it will still have Nissan parts Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 But then it will still have Nissan parts Lol god loves a tryer...!!..................look...........if i didnt have a landrover i would have so much free time...then what would i do........there are only so many times one can abuse oneself in a day ...eh ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 god loves a tryer...!!..................look...........if i didnt have a landrover i would have so much free time...then what would i do........there are only so many times one can abuse oneself in a day ...eh ! No, if you didn't have a LR you'd have to work all hours God sends to keep replacing rotted out jap trucks Count the 20 year old Japs you see in a week, you won't need many fingers, in fact you could do it with mittens on :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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