ShootingEgg Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Went and bought some gamebore supersteels for a shoot im on tomorrow, and now have a horrible feeling my beretta isnt proofed for HP Steel.. So i have a slab(bought enough for season) that potentially i cannot use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris1961 Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Oh dear I would check before using them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted October 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 I asked for steel and was sold hp... I have a 687s silver pigeon (2003) model.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 They will be fine , if it was me I would use them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 As long as a 3inch mag beretta and using half choke or less, should be fine. Gamebore Super Steels, do say game steels are suitable for 2 3/4 standard guns on their website and UK CIP spec for competition steel loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Well it's up to you. Most will use them it depends on gun condition as much as a stamp I used such in my non steel under and over beretta and continue to use such in 3 non steel side by side guns all made before steel shot existed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted October 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Been looking online and they are 3' chamber suitable for magnums. They are the only steel shot I have and im not one for using lead where it shouldn't be used... Have 1/2 and 1/4 chokes in (will triple check before unloading my spouts at the ducks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Is your gun 3" chambered though? Been looking online and they are 3' chamber suitable for magnums. They are the only steel shot I have and im not one for using lead where it shouldn't be used... Have 1/2 and 1/4 chokes in (will triple check before unloading my spouts at the ducks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted October 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Is your gun 3" chambered though? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super sharp shooter Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 It depends on what you gun is proofed at. HP steel is quite a bit higher in pressure so be warned.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Do Gamebore do more than one (excluding the shot sizes) Super Steel cartridge. If not, as per their website, unless you've bought No 3s, all would be well. You say that you, "went and bought some", but do you mean that you, 'went TO buy some' and ended up with something different as it now seems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super sharp shooter Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 A standard proofed gun is 950 bar and HP steel is 1050 bar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted October 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Wymberley - i contacted my local shop, they said they had 32g 3's in stock and 32 4's went to get them and was sold the 3's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Wymberley - i contacted my local shop, they said they had 32g 3's in stock and 32 4's went to get them and was sold the 3's. Can't you nip back and change them or were they telling porkies about having the 4s in stock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted October 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Wymberley - i contacted my local shop, they said they had 32g 3's in stock and 32 4's went to get them and was sold the 3's. Totally accept my own fault for not checking my barrels for the proof mark. Only noticed they were HP when I opened a box to find the bit of paper stating that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 A standard proofed gun is 950 bar and HP steel is 1050 bar max' service pressure Sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted October 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Ooo ive quoted myself somehow haha.... Also they said they had Hull 4's in stock. But they do have a high turn over of sales due to where they are. So it may have been a case of selling out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) Wymberley - i contacted my local shop, they said they had 32g 3's in stock and 32 4's went to get them and was sold the 3's. Totally accept my own fault for not checking my barrels for the proof mark. Only noticed they were HP when I opened a box to find the bit of paper stating that. You could argue that the shop should have asked before selling them unless you specifically asked for the 3s. Either way, a half decent RFD should be willing to accept that a mistake was made somewhere and replace them - assuming, of course, that the 4s will also be suitable for your needs. Edit: Oops, hadn't seen your Post # 17. Edited October 2, 2015 by wymberley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) Caveat emptor! Edited October 2, 2015 by TIGHTCHOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Your gun will be absolutely fine! I would quite happily put ANY 3" factory steel load in my silver pigeon 4. It is not steel proofed, but would easily pass if it had the test. I would even shoot those shells with a full choke, provided it is through a multi choked gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIDES EDGE Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Super steel are 65mm and will be fine even in No3 I have put hundreds through my old 686 dont swap them for Hull ,Gamebore are the best steel shot cartridges going . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 I agree with Motty. The shells will be fine as long as your choke is less than 1\2. You have a 3 inch chambered gun and the Gamebore shells are 2 3\4 inch which are made for 2 3\3 inch chambered cartridges.I have put 100s of them through my 2 3\4 inch chambered game guns with 1\4 and 1\3 chokes and no hint of a problem over the last decade . As for the shot size , no 3 are fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 To put things into perspective 950 bar is around 13800 PSI , I recently read a report on the internet where some body had pressure tested barrels ( remington ones in this case ) . They tested to see what pressure was needed to damage / blow the barrel . It was not until they reached 51000 PSI the barrels would fail , once that figure was reached they failed on every occasion. Even the highest pressured of my home loads top out at a good bit less than 13800 PSI and factory cartridges are going to get nowhere near it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted October 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Well my barrels are 3"chambers but no fluer and no mention of steel shot.. I dont dispute that they may be fine in it but at the same time if it does fudge the barrels its an expensive mistake to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Well my barrels are 3"chambers but no fluer and no mention of steel shot.. I dont dispute that they may be fine in it but at the same time if it does fudge the barrels its an expensive mistake to make. You don't seem to be taking the hint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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