Salop Matt Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Gang,Have any of you lot ever used any trade secrects products ? I bought a bottle for my stock on saturday and it seems very good but the stock is drawing it in so quick.It says to put a coat on, leave it two hours then buff by hand and leave to dry/harden. Well after 40 mins this stock has sucked 95% + in and so I am buffing it at that point. Last night was the second coat but there was no sign of it slowing up. Am sure the old saying with oiling a stock is: Once a night for a week, then once a week for a month and then once a month for a year. But I just dont think it will be enough for this stock. Any thoughts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savhmr Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I found that the CCL kits worked the best where the finishing oil is combined with a hardener which speeds up the process and provides a more durable weather resistant finish. I wouldn't recommend other kits after trying this one as the oil mix seems ideal. If the stock is still sucking it in, try a few more coats. It can sometimes take 10 coats or more depending on what oil you use. Some of what I do for a living includes oil finishing to fine standards, and the finishing oils I use take upwards of 10 coats before a gloss finish starts to appear. If the stock is drawing the oil in that quick, then you wont have to leave it 40 minutes as the oil will have been mixed with other solvent bases to thin it out at a guess. I'd wait until it is touch dry, buff with a clean dry cloth and apply another coat of oil, then repeat the process allowing a little more time between each coat. Once it starts slowing up, it will need longer. After 5 or so coats it may be better to leave it overnight for the oils to start oxidising, then lightly rub with a scotchbright nylon scouring pad gently (coated in a little oil), then buff and apply a light coat of oil with a clean cloth. This will take any nap appearing due to dust settling on a freshly oiled surface off, or at least smooth it over. Do that between subsequent coats, building up one or two coats a day for a week. Oiling a stock requires care and patience to achieve a good finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted October 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Cheers for that, I have only done two coats, but when I had read leave 2 hours then buff in I was shocked at 40 odd minutes to see there was barely any there to buff. the same happened last night witht he second coat. so I will try two coats tonight and then leave untill tomorrow night to resume ! ATB Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwade545 Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 A few stocks I have done with trade secrets rapid oil, put a coat on a day, leave for a few hours to soak in then buff it. After about a week I leave it to dry and harden for a week or two, then give it a light sand, or rub with fine wire wool and a little oil, then the coats start to leave a nice finish. If the wood is very dry then it will absorb a lot of coats- think my betetta had 30 in the end! Leaving to to dry well is the key, hence I leave it for a week every few coats to ensure its dry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted October 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Looks nice ! Looking forward to the outcome, looks like ive got a fair old way to go now ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 rwade545 - very nice finish on those. Classy, but not too shiny. I am impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savhmr Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Yep. Nice job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Keep rubbing the oil in . It can take many coats to get the finish you want . It will start to dry blotchy ,at least you know that the oil is being absorbed by the stock . You will know when the stock is finished as you will get a nice even finish over all of the stock . You cannot say how many coats it will take as all stocks are different ,just keep applying until you get the finish you want l Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Is this a stock you've started to re finish or just adding to its finish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browning123 Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Don't rush the job, one coat each night only - it will eventually build up to the required finish. I have used Trade Secret for years and the secret is to take your time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilR Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 My Perazzi game and trap stocks I refurbished and oiled using Trade Secret oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted October 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Its a brand new air rifle stock, its very matt at the moment ! Am oiling and even gave it two coats last night a few hours apart, but within an hour is sucked all the oil in and is as dry as a bone with no evidance of anything being done to it ! Cheers for the advise guys! ATB Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Its a brand new air rifle stock, its very matt at the moment ! Am oiling and even gave it two coats last night a few hours apart, but within an hour is sucked all the oil in and is as dry as a bone with no evidance of anything being done to it ! Cheers for the advise guys! ATB Matt If you have rubbed it down then the pores of the wood is open . Keep rubbing ,you will get there in the end . Well worth the effort . Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 As above you need to seal the grain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 A lot will depend on the wood and how it has been "seasoned" or rather dried .A lot of wood has been kiln dried and in fact over dried so it will soak up a lot of oil . Oil finishing takes time and patience ,there are no set times one stock may look good after 2 or 3 coats of oil another may take 10 or more . As to Trade Secrets oil , I use it as it suits me and to be frank after years of mixing my own oils I find it as good as any thing else . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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