hambone Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Not wanting to derail the thread about single barrel shot guns I have started this one as per the title. I have a single barrel Baikal inherited from my father, it does not eat or drink and is not worth much second hand so lives in my cabinet and is rarely used. I see that 'Wabbit bosher' has a number for sale at £5 each and that they seem to be generally treated with distain. My question is therefore why are these guns no longer sought after/used as they must once have been to be so prevalent and cheep second hand now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlerob Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Everyone wants that Second shot also people are pansys and think they kick like hell. I have a nice Italian BSA folder one it kicks with Hever cartridges but it's fine with 32g I use it as a training gun my mates 11 years old son and he is like a rake and shoot it over a 75 bird sporting lay out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajb403 Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 I have a silenced single barrel .410, a single barrel folding 20g and a 12g side by side so I own more single barrelled shotguns than double barrelled! Admittedly my side by side is my go to gun but the other two have their uses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 My first shotgun was a Baikal single barrel, and I used Baikal cartridges. I was only 15 years old, with not much 'meat' on me. Yes, it gave out some 'heavy' recoil, but I learnt to shoot with it, before moving on to double's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 People are far more affluent nowadays and can afford doubles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 More is better syndrome. On a bad day I waste double the cartridges with a double. On a good day I usually only need a single shot from the double! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 My first shotgun was a Baikal single barrel, and I used Baikal cartridges. I was only 15 years old, with not much 'meat' on me. Yes, it gave out some 'heavy' recoil, but I learnt to shoot with it, before moving on to double's. The memories are flooding back, had one of my best days pigeon shooting if not the best day with a borrowed single barrel Baikal and Baikal cartridges. Every time i see one for sale i always think i must get one and never do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muffin Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 When you started thats what you started with in my day and moved up now youngsters look a bit like they want something else Matone correct folk are more affluent these days and do not have easy access as I did wandering around after school with a 410 My Cooey is nostalgic used to have one so when I saw a minter bought it but it will remain a minter as do not really have any use put about 6 shells through it in 12 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 1st single I used was a Winchester 37,great gun,shot a lot of stuff with it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tx4cabbie Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Love my Greener gp, as does anyone who sees or shoots it. Light, great trigger, 32" barrel full choke so hits with authority - if it's a bunny it doesn't get up, if it's a clay it dusts. Action is different enough to be fascinating to beginners, and got a nice thick recoil pad from limbsaver on there, as gun was bought to use with beginners. Would use it more, but the inability to shoot doubles just means that a round takes twice as long. We did have a great play a while back when someone swore they knew a bloke who could shoot doubles with one - i can reload quite quickly but you'd have to be Jerry miculek to hit a pair, reliably, with a single barrel martini action. Was quite a challenge and fun. At a fiver, could be worth getting one, popping a really good recoil pad on, getting in some 21g shells, and then you're set for ladies or kids wanting to try the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Like a lot of others, my first gun was a Webley 12 bore single barrel gun. I have 2 young Grandkids who have just started having their first few shots. I have bought the older lad a 28 bore O/U for several reasons. I could not find a single barrel hammerless shotgun that did not fold or opened easily. Most of the earlier guns were hammer or 'semi-hammerless'. The Baikal can be a pig to open with the trigger guard lever, the folding guns are a pain to carry, especially for a younger person. I was left with very little choice but to buy a double barrel gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisdom Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 I have a Web ley and Scott single 12 hammer.Its old but in brilliant condition.Often used on the bunny's and it's great to shoot with.Often I use paper cased cartridges for the nostalgia feel.Love it.It taught my 2 sons to shoot ,although they have now progressed to doubles they still often want to use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 I took my Greener GP to the clay shooting club many years ago, and everyone wanted a go. First at the pattern plate and then at some clays. Everyone who fired it, wanted to buy one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 I'd love a single 410 to teach the kiddies. Money is a reason but finding one is harder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caravanman Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) I've got an old Savage model 220b and love it. Going to be my daughters first gun when she's older. Edited October 9, 2015 by Caravanman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 hello, i had a cooey and i think a greener gp or something like that, had a pull down lever? i used baikel cartridges but made barrels very dirty, did anyone use the cheap chech carts think 6.5 shot, was in the late 60s early 70s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 hello, i had a cooey and i think a greener gp or something like that, had a pull down lever? i used baikel cartridges but made barrels very dirty, did anyone use the cheap chech carts think 6.5 shot, was in the late 60s early 70s first shotty was a S/S hammer 410 spanish, at 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 (edited) First for me at 8 year old . Spanish El Chimbo sbs hammer 410, but only allowed 1 cartridge at a time, brother has it now for safe keeping. As I have an o/u 410. Edited October 10, 2015 by Stonepark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moblies Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 I have a bosher special. 12g Italian folding single and hope my son will start shooting with it at some point. Lovely gun and cost me 10 quid for two. The other a 1950's Belgium single hammer which I'll probably give to a mate that's just starting out. Every cabinet should have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 I started with a single barrel when I was at school and had to buy my carts with my " paper round" money so I made every shot count which I think made me a better shot overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 hello, just slightly off topic but a follow on from PW member hambone first post as i put on 2 single shottys i had at the start of my shooting life with shotguns at 15 got me thinking of all the guns i bought and used up to 15 years ago as had to give up due to personell reasons ( so 1964 to 2000) but like the song, now i am back!!! and pleased i have done with permit and my new semi auto (still to try!!) no pigeon about yet) here is a list of shotties i had, spanish 410/ greener/ coey/ hughs s/s english/ aya yeoman £38!!!!/ aya no 4/army navy boxlock / baikel o/u/ chapus o/u french/ browning o/u was first medalist from them as knew sales manager when at milton pk/ winchester 101 20bore/ rizzini o/u/ and last a lanber o/u. best s/s was defo the army navy and best o/u i shot with the lanber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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