Grandalf Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Impressive - What size is the paper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.5x55SE Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Impressive - What size is the paper?40" Wide x 47" High Also 60yrd 42gms PWS 4 shot. Someone saw a Pink I shot Sunday and thought I'd shot it flying upside down !!!!!! As the Shot had clean passed through the Pink I'm not into Sky Busting but that Goose and others was a Tad over 40yrd !!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanm Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Very very good patterns for 60 yrd And anyone who says steel isn't effective beyond 40 yrd is either a terrible shot or is using **** shells .I use steel all the time and don't use lead for wildfowl inland even though by law I can ,but if you want to restrict your shots to 40 yrd Max then that's upto you but don't preach to others who consistently use it (and get clean kills ) a bit further Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.5x55SE Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Very very good patterns for 60 yrd And anyone who says steel isn't effective beyond 40 yrd is either a terrible shot or is using **** shells .I use steel all the time and don't use lead for wildfowl inland even though by law I can ,but if you want to restrict your shots to 40 yrd Max then that's upto you but don't preach to others who consistently use it (and get clean kills ) a bit further Thank you. 100% agree with your thoughts on Steel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Those who think steel is only good for 30-40 yards are either using the wrong load or the wrong choke . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
widgeon man Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Im less worried by people underestimating steel shot and its capabilities .............. The trouble some people have is not using big enough steel shot. Forget 5's......... 4's are for teal, close wigeon........3's General duck shooting.........2's good range mallard, close goose....1's. B,BB,BBB for goosing! As some of us have been caught out on a goose flight with BBB in and shot duck can confirm they pattern a great on ducks! No pricked duck yet. Advantage of larger steel is none left in meat either! Very good patterns Boyd! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewluke Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Those who think steel is only good for 30-40 yards are either using the wrong load or the wrong choke . what factory load do you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 what factory load do you use? I mainly reload , but if I use factory it is either eley lightning or gamebore mammoth and I generally use a light full choke for everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatsanmad Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Found this video. It shows how effective steel can actually be at ranges. And this is before modern powders and high performance rounds. So i do believe steel is effective at range if the shot is put in the right place. It changed my opinion on steel shot. Yes i personally wouldnt shoot at some of the birds this guy does as i dont think my abilities are good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Thank you. 100% agree with your thoughts on Steel as an aside can you shoot pinks on a Sunday in Norfolk..thought they were off limits on a Sunday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.5x55SE Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 as an aside can you shoot pinks on a Sunday in Norfolk..thought they were off limits on a Sunday? NO it is NOT LEGAL to shoot Wildfowl on Sunday in the County of Norfolk Where did I ever put in my post I was illegally shooting Wildfowl !!!!!!! Perhaps IF you read propally I DID put in brackets LEGALLY shot on Sunday. I for one won't put exact places I shoot for obvious reasons but rest assured myself was NOT breaking the Law. But thanks for pointing out your concerns about someone who been Wildfowling for 46 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m greeny Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 There's always one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 i am a total novice on the foreshore have been out once @ Brancaster/Wells..,my post was in no way a go at you,it was my naive understanding from back of my mind that cannot shoot 'fowl on a sunday in certain counties...Norfolk being one of them...I am so pleased you have been wildfowling for 46 years.....my aside was for clarification because I am not sure.atb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.5x55SE Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 i am a total novice on the foreshore have been out once @ Brancaster/Wells..,my post was in no way a go at you,it was my naive understanding from back of my mind that cannot shoot 'fowl on a sunday in certain counties...Norfolk being one of them...I am so pleased you have been wildfowling for 46 years.....my aside was for clarification because I am not sure.atb. No problem. If you come from West Sussex how'd you manage to get out fowling Brancaster an Wells Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 won a CA raffle/blind auction(cant remember which) years ago and a nice local fowler who lived in Brancaster took me out with his 8 bore.....amazing experience walking out at 4.30am took a good hour in the dark jumping ditches/wading with a decent hangover...will never forget the sound of the roost waking up and then the 'squadrons' flying over...incredible...if lived nearer would happily go out without a gun....I also remember the hail/the cold lying in a ditch but those memories are nothing compared to the geese..sight&sound...quite awesome....foreshore is hard core and nothing like my usual shooting...carrying 2 geese and a couple of ducks back took nearly 90 minutes and I remember being absolutely whacked.....finished off with a massive full english in The golf club.......think I got full circulation back about 3 days later!!! This must have been 10 years ago but still ingrained. Massive respect for the foreshore the wildfowlers the location and especially the skeins of geese...incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.5x55SE Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 won a CA raffle/blind auction(cant remember which) years ago and a nice local fowler who lived in Brancaster took me out with his 8 bore.....amazing experience walking out at 4.30am took a good hour in the dark jumping ditches/wading with a decent hangover...will never forget the sound of the roost waking up and then the 'squadrons' flying over...incredible...if lived nearer would happily go out without a gun....I also remember the hail/the cold lying in a ditch but those memories are nothing compared to the geese..sight&sound...quite awesome....foreshore is hard core and nothing like my usual shooting...carrying 2 geese and a couple of ducks back took nearly 90 minutes and I remember being absolutely whacked.....finished off with a massive full english in The golf club.......think I got full circulation back about 3 days later!!! This must have been 10 years ago but still ingrained. Massive respect for the foreshore the wildfowlers the location and especially the skeins of geese...incredible. Top Man well done. I won't go into detail but unfortunately alot has changed in the last 10 years and not for the better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popa bear Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Hi. I have decided to take the plunge and get myself a 3 shot semi-auto for the marsh. We get mostly duck with the odd chance of a goose. What choke should I fit? I am an OK shot and will be using steel, I do not shoot at very long range birds . I know there is not a one size fits all answer, just a compromise will do. Thanks. Getting back to your original question I have done a bit of research on the question of which choke to use with steel shot as I am about to start using it myself and the answer seems to be from the experts nothing tighter than 1/2 choke hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farma Geddon Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Half choke will suffice if you do not wish to push your distance ,though you might be surprised how well you do with it. I use tighter chokes , because I am awkward but also because they increase your killing distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 1/4 or 1/2,I use them with gambore supper steel 32g 4's depending on what I'm doing. The secret is let them come in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.5x55SE Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Getting back to your original question I have done a bit of research on the question of which choke to use with steel shot as I am about to start using it myself and the answer seems to be from the experts nothing tighter than 1/2 choke hope this helps My advice to you and other novices is take note and listen to those that Coastal Wildfowl. Also those with plenty of honest experience ( not 25-40 yrd shooters ) will add it's not just the case of 1/2 choke is best as I've recently found out. To get the best you need to match choke to cartridges to gun. I use this example as I personally know Farma Geddon and Muncher have spent hrs fine tuning loads to choke combination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Those two gentlemen undoubtedly know their onions. My advice to you and other novices is take note and listen to those that Coastal Wildfowl.Also those with plenty of honest experience ( not 25-40 yrd shooters ) will add it's not just the case of 1/2 choke is best as I've recently found out.To get the best you need to match choke to cartridges to gun.I use this example as I personally know Farma Geddon and Muncher have spent hrs fine tuning loads to choke combination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.5x55SE Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) Those two gentlemen undoubtedly know their onions. I shot the cartridges I mentioned through other chokes same gun and never got the patterns I posted.G. ( Farma Geddon ) very kindly loaded me some Cartridges ( his Duck load ) a few years back He knows the story . G.J. and Hammy told me your got to pattern and match Em up did I listen NO to old and stuck in my way Well as you can see I finally took all Three's advice cost a bit in Chokes powder etc but I got there. But in spite of any pattern we achieve non of us will ever escape the fact " the Shot/Pattern HAS to be put in the right place " Edited November 17, 2015 by 6.5x55SE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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