Marksman1997 Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 Recently at a Local Clay Shoot. Shooting with my gun i got very noticeable swelling and a bit of a bruise on my cheek from shooting clays. Was told that i mustn't be mounting or holding the gun right. I showed them how i mount and hold the gun and they couldn't fault what i was doing. Made it into the Final and was getting sore. Was told not to hold it soo tight to my cheek so tried holding it off a bit and missed the first two so went back to my usual way and hit the rest apart from 1 and won the competition. I can hit very well with the gun but always get bruising. Don't really want to change a gun that i hit soo well with either. Any advice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 Seek help from a professional, it sounds like it doesn't fit you properly, as if it did you wouldn't be walloping your cheek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 OUR LASS LOVES BRUISED CHEEKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 Too much information George! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) If you're mounting it right and still getting bruised, the gun doesn't fit. Get a gunsmith to check it out for you. Edited to add: Oops tightchoke beat me to it. Edited January 2, 2016 by walshie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 You need the help of a professional. I shot well with a Beretta I once owned but it walloped my cheek. I liked the gun very much and would have had it altered to fit me if I hadn't found a particular gun I desired even more. Get if fitted by a professional, is my advice, and you'll never look back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveboy Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 OUR LASS LOVES BRUISED CHEEKS Your not mounting her right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) You don't say what gun you were using? It can't fit that well if it's smacking you in the cheek but a lighter gun will generally hit you harder than a heavier one. Try a lighter cartridge but this won't help you in serious competitions. Edited January 2, 2016 by Whitebridges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eon Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 Get yourself to someone who can identify the 'not fitting' issue and do something about it or you will be paying twice for the same problem. Am experienced coach or instructor may spot the issue but not be able to rectify it. A proper gunsmiths should be able to not only see what's wrong but also be in a position to alter the gun for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Go and see a gun fitter there's something wrong unlikely to be a million miles out as you can make it fit to shoot well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salopian Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 If your gun is a Beretta it may be a comb shape issue. It possibly could be a pitch issue also which can temporarily fixed by altering the pitch by placing 'penny' washers between the butt pad and the stock at the heel (top, comb side) how many washers is down to trial and error . If this cures it you then need the pitch angle on the stock recutting. As others have said a good shooting instructor should sort this out in a few minutes . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 And this does not apply to Miroku/Perazzi/Krieghoff/Blaser/CG/Browning/AYA/Zoli/Winchester/Fausti/Kemen/Gamba/Laurona/Lincoln ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Possibilitys are endless, go to a stocker and get it fitted. Possibily too much cast as that makes em whack you, move the whole comb over rather than loads of cast... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guiltyyapper Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 check if you have a master eye problem, if you are right handed and you have a left master eye you will be rolling your head over the stock and trying to look down it with your left eye. The gun could fit it could just be a case of glasses needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 My guess for what its worth is either too low in the comb or too short in the stock or a mixture of both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 You do not say how long you have been shooting the gun and if it is a one off thing or it 'smacks' you EVERY time you use it, regardless of clothing. Shooting today in pouring rain, one of my shooting pals had a red mark and puffed lip after 50 shots. His gun has been fitted and he normally shoots it very well. We came back to the vehicle for more cartridges to do the 2nd 50 targets and I suggested he change his jacket for his thinner one and remove his fleece top. Result ! no more 'smacking' more hit clays, even though his face was a bit sore. He just had too much clothing on which had the effect of making his gun nearly 2" longer, it was therefore on the top of his arm and NOT the shoulder pocket. Moral to the story.......................if you go for a gunfitting in Summer, take the coat that you are likely to be wearing in Winter. Although a decent Stockfitter should have made that clear before he went for the fitting. You would not go to a Tailor for a jacket alteration and NOT take the jacket with you ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 I would suggest Marksman1997 has taken up archery, on holiday or can't be *****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tx4cabbie Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 As guiltyyapper said, check eye dominance. When I got my beretta I started trying to shoot both eyes open, and found after 100 clays I had a bruise on my cheek, turns out I'm right eye dominant but shoot left handed, and was trying to roll my head over the stock and look down the rib with my right eye. Now I spot the clay with both open then shut the right, and do ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksman1997 Posted January 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Sorry lads just back from the Archery! I am right handed and shoot with my right eye. It was Absolutely freezing on the day of the shoot and very windy so now that i think of it i had two heavy jumpers on! May be part of the problem! Gun was a Silma M80 30" so not as if it has much kick! Its pretty easy on the recoil. Would be willing to go get it fitted but don't know of such a place here in Northern Ireland? The Gun: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOTTO Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 For your consideration, if as seems to be the case with the extra clothing having been already mentioned that this has the effect of making the stock longer, it also has the effect of lowering your face in relation to the rib along the comb. The brain in order to establish your usual lead picture, tells you to lift your head to compensate, thus inviting the gun to give you a good old smack in the face by way of retribution! Ouch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthitathing Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 From experience, a smack in the cheek usually comes from lifting your head slightly off the stock. Usually an involuntary movement caused by the eye being too low behind the rib. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salopian Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Hamster, thank you for the benefit of your experience! Beretta was only mentioned as it is a very common issue with cheek slap on Beretta's . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Hamster, thank you for the benefit of your experience! Beretta was only mentioned as it is a very common issue with cheek slap on Beretta's . Is it the metal they use or maybe the wood isn't properly aged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 A fairly basic fact check will reveal there are more Berettas in circulation than any other single make, even today despite huge inroads made by various other makes they outnumber all other makes on a typical clay ground and the vast majority of their users have never experienced cheek bruising or they'd have got rid of them and few of us ever even get our guns fitted. So the notion that Beretta are somehow intrinsically prone to this problem is, well lets just put that in the same category as your innate dislike of Krieghoffs . Respectfully, Owner of at least 8 different makes none of which have caused me any problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 There's a guy in America - where cheek slap seems much more common - who claims it's often caused by the pitch angle of the recoil pad not matching the shooter's physique and allowing the muzzles to rise too much. In other words the bottom of the pad is directing more recoil than the top thus allowing the gun to swing upwards when fired. As suggested above it's easy to experiment with spacers under the top of the pad to change the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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