grahamch Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Am looking for something for fowling as my Browning 725UK keeps jammimng with the slightest bit of mud and cant find a suitable ou. Have been thinking of a Beretta Exterma but cant really tell the difference between the 300, 350 and 400 other than price - any one explain? My local gun shop did say they could get them left handed but cant see any lefties for sale on the net anywhere. Confused! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exudate Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Not really the answer you're asking for, but have you considered a Benelli M2? It's inertia driven, not gas, so has very few working parts so is less prone to jamming through dirt. This also makes it light and very easy to clean. The synthetic stocked M2 Essential is around £950 new. I use one for pigeon decoying and love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Not sure of the 350 but the 400 has a better recoil reduction system that the 300 , the 300 is a mix of parts from the 400 and the old xtrema , also the 300 does not have a magazine cut off button . I do know people that have had problems with both models , although I am told the new 400 series seem better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamch Posted January 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Thanks had an M2 lh camo and couldnt get on with it other than the first shot when l got 2 wigeon. Sold it vv quickly tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 I have a Winchester SXP 3.5" for sale (nearly new) a lot of people rate them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GADWALL41 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Confused. Yes Beretta Semis can have that effect , for clarity and brevity a short listing . BERETTA XTREMA BERETTA XTREMA 2 BERETTA A 400 XTREME , this is in current production, the above are not. 3.5 in This Gun is available in Left hand version , Black only as far as I know . I have used all the above guns. Beretta A 300 , 3in cheaper model . The A 400 XTREME , has Aqua coating , to defend against corrosion and this does a good job. . I am sure your RFD could order in any gun for you . Heres a Thought , why not go to the shooting show at the end of the month at Stoneleigh and try out a few guns for fit , as you say its hard to find one , you will be spoilt for choice I am sure if you go. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 The A300 extrema is a 3.5". Confused. Yes Beretta Semis can have that effect , for clarity and brevity a short listing . BERETTA XTREMA BERETTA XTREMA 2 BERETTA A 400 XTREME , this is in current production, the above are not. 3.5 in This Gun is available in Left hand version , Black only as far as I know . I have used all the above guns. Beretta A 300 , 3in cheaper model . The A 400 XTREME , has Aqua coating , to defend against corrosion and this does a good job. . I am sure your RFD could order in any gun for you . Heres a Thought , why not go to the shooting show at the end of the month at Stoneleigh and try out a few guns for fit , as you say its hard to find one , you will be spoilt for choice I am sure if you go. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GADWALL41 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) Motty , all 4 Current A 300 OUTLANDER models are a 3in. There is no A 300 Xtrema - Xtreme model. Edited January 5, 2016 by GADWALL41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Perhaps it has been discontinued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) Motty , all 4 Current A 300 OUTLANDER models are a 3in. There is no A 300 Xtrema - Xtreme model. Gadwall there is a A300 xtrema 3.5" chambers , plenty on here have them. The A300 xtrema , is not a version of the outlander , the outlander is berettas basic auto unless I am mistaken Edited January 5, 2016 by fenboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GADWALL41 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 How goes it Fenboy . I checked the Beretta site , before I posted the first time and re checked before my second post . The currently available A300 s are only 3 in , there is no currently available A 300 in 3.5in on Beretta.com. Again for the OP , the only Leftie is a 400. at this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GADWALL41 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 XTREMA confusion , at last we have a Thread with the Perfect Tile. Thank you Beretta, yet again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 I used to have an original XTREMA, Beretta`s first, and rather belated entry into the 3.5" market. It was their worst ever selling semi auto and enjoyed the shortest production run of any of their self loaders, ever. It is no longer made and the availability of spares is increasingly difficult. None of it`s parts are interchangeable with other models. Their design team got it completely wrong and produced a physically very large and heavy gun that a great many of it`s customers found difficulty with in shooting closer, faster birds.It`s sales bombed in the U.S where it failed to compete with other, lighter and better handling guns by other makers. It`s reliability of function was never a problem and it`s successor the Beretta Xtrema 2 was an excellent gun with all of the problems of it`s older brother removed at source. Typically, they stopped making it as well and the same problem arises with spares. Whatever gun you fancy, my advise is to make sure that it is NOT a Beretta Xtrema. I know a lot of fowlers who bought them when they first came out. Not one of them still owns that gun. Many of those fowlers are still shooting Xtrema 2`s or Benelli Super Black Eagles - my fowling piece of choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncher Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 I have owned the A300 extrema 3.5 inch chamber I belive this has been discontinued , and the extrema 2 and the A400 extrema for me the best one is the extrema 2 ,I have also owned a SBE2 the worst semi I have ever owned or as my shooting friends called it the jamelli all have there issues probably why Inow use a browning waterfowl 425 they don't jam . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 With respect I should look carefully at how you service your current gun and what precautions you take on the Marsh to prevent the mud getting were it shouldn't be Most gas operated are basically the same in design Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 I would advise the exact opposite. I love my Xtrema and I would buy another if I ever wear mine out. It is one of the most reliable semis i have seen. I can't understand anyone having problems with fast, close birds. I can source spares easily enough,too. I used to have an original XTREMA, Beretta`s first, and rather belated entry into the 3.5" market. It was their worst ever selling semi auto and enjoyed the shortest production run of any of their self loaders, ever. It is no longer made and the availability of spares is increasingly difficult. None of it`s parts are interchangeable with other models. Their design team got it completely wrong and produced a physically very large and heavy gun that a great many of it`s customers found difficulty with in shooting closer, faster birds.It`s sales bombed in the U.S where it failed to compete with other, lighter and better handling guns by other makers. It`s reliability of function was never a problem and it`s successor the Beretta Xtrema 2 was an excellent gun with all of the problems of it`s older brother removed at source. Typically, they stopped making it as well and the same problem arises with spares. Whatever gun you fancy, my advise is to make sure that it is NOT a Beretta Xtrema. I know a lot of fowlers who bought them when they first came out. Not one of them still owns that gun. Many of those fowlers are still shooting Xtrema 2`s or Benelli Super Black Eagles - my fowling piece of choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Fair enough if you can shoot with it. Mine always went bang, although I did have to return it to GMK for a standard modification to the trigger which was then on offer since one of the complaints with the gun was the "creepy" trigger. Fully a 1/4" of play before the trigger activated. Said to have been an in built safety feature since the designers were convinced that the recoil from the big shells might produce a second involuntary trigger pull. I raise my hat to you if you can get on with yours. In so far as major component spares are concerned, in order to try to cure the handling problem I tried to source a 26" barrel from GMK. They quoted me a price that was more than the cost of some other complete semi`s. Since production had ceased the barrel would have to come from South America and would take over a year to deliver. I hope you won`t mind me pointing out once more that it`s manufacture was abandoned soon after it`s launch. I hated mine with the passion that you evidently love yours. I hope it carries on working for you. No reason why it should`nt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 I have the A300 it works flawlessly and i shoot many days a week. I rarely clean it and now i know how, its easy to strip and rebuild. I looked at the 400 but couldnt justify the extra cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnie Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 I have a xtrema 2 , no problems 30" barrel +extended choke, it always goes bang, the birds don't always drop out of the sky but that's user error. This gun runs on marsh mud and gets a strip clean at the end of the season, cannot fault it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IEH Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 I think the A300 Extrema has been discontinued but they've now introduced an A350 which I assume replaces it. As said, confusing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 I really cannot understand why Beretta feel the need to keep changing their range of Auto's on such a regular basis . It would not be so bad if the newer models were a improvement but I think the general consensus is that the xtrema 2 was and perhaps is the best wildfowling auto made. Yet all attempts at trying to better it seem to end in failure , despite some hefty price hikes ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IEH Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 I really cannot understand why Beretta feel the need to keep changing their range of Auto's on such a regular basis . It would not be so bad if the newer models were a improvement but I think the general consensus is that the xtrema 2 was and perhaps is the best wildfowling auto made. Yet all attempts at trying to better it seem to end in failure , despite some hefty price hikes ! Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Agreed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
widgeon man Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 What he said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 I have a xtrema 2 , no problems 30" barrel +extended choke, it always goes bang, the birds don't always drop out of the sky but that's user error. This gun runs on marsh mud and gets a strip clean at the end of the season, cannot fault it. You see I service mine taking out the trigger group cleaning it and re-lube also all the gas piston inside of the action mag tube internally pretty much the full gambit after any heavy session in the mud and every say three flights otherwise I use a Winchester but it matters little you need to look after the autos more than seasons end if you want fault free It's not hard to do and doesn't take as long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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