Dominicrobed Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Cheers mate. Hope things start getting sorted now for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominicrobed Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Just watched it and it seemed positive. The amount of money shooting puts into the economy was not mentioned though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belly47 Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Let's hope this coverage kicks them into gear. I'm not hopeful, but it can't hurt I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja_fox Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Question was asked why is it taking nearly a year for kent to process tickets when Essex and Sussex can do it in a few weeks. Except that it takes over a year for Essex to do it as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted March 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Except that it takes over a year for Essex to do it as well... Well there you go. that's the paparazzi for you. they must be mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dano0404 Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 Got mine through today just under 7 months. Did a email last week and he said the had taken it from the back log and put it in to processing. Week later it was here so chase them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominicrobed Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 Spoke to my local RFD last week. He said they are looking into employing another person to help with the backlog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted March 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 That's a strange thing for them to say because they had two new staff that had been in the office for over a year and they still weren't fully trained so even if they take someone on they wont be fully operational for a long time and probably someone will leave before they are fully trained. I was told that it was in the office side that there was a problem and that the field side was up to speed. Instead of employing someone else they need to put in some extra hours with the staff that they have got and not go home early on a Friday. If I or a lot of people had a job that was behind I would be working on it late into the evening and Saturday and Sunday if required not just doing the set hours. Even the feos jack in early on Friday. There was a bit on the tv about the waiting times in Kent and the woman in charge ( Ann Barnes ) I think. said something along the lines of it was costing more to process tickets than the fee. and that she didn't see why police budgets should be subsidising someones hobby. This was from the person who employed a young girl to be a yout ambassador who then had to resign over a load of gaffs ect. and other stuff as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominicrobed Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 Oh well. What ever happens it will come through at some point when I put mine in in a few months time. Not overly worried as gun cabinet if full ( filled up the last space last week ) and even if it runs out I can buy more carts with the section 7 they have to give me. Will be putting renewal in 5-6 month early so they can't say they didn't get it in time. Just feel sorry for the lad that was in the shop looking at and holding different shotguns. He said he put his grant in 3 weeks ago and how long will he have to wait all happy like , until I said renewals are taking 6-7 months and they take priority over yours. Not good for our sport. At least the RFD gave him some beretta and browning catalogs to look through haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordfowler Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 Finally heard from my FEO on Friday 1st April !!. Went through my application over the phone - and as nothing has changed since last renewal that I think is that. His report will be going back to admin and my new cert should arrive in due course (whenever that is). Have agreed the this cert will only last for 18 months which is when my FAC expires so that I can then have Coterminous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted April 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 Finally heard from my FEO on Friday 1st April !!. Went through my application over the phone Have agreed the this cert will only last for 18 months which is when my FAC expires so that I can then have Coterminous. Are you paying the full amount for a full term licence but that it will run out in 18 months to then go CO term? Or are they just charging a part fee?One of the Son in laws applied for his FAC and Was told verbally that as it was his first application that he could have a. 22 rf and that when he had done six months he could have a free variation for a 223/243 or similar. When the 6 months Was up He contracted the department and was told that there was no such thing as a free variation and that the feo wouldn't have said such a thing because he hadn't got any authority to do this. They did vary his ticket to have a 223 and a 243 but he had to pay for a variation. Be very wary of anything that they say verbally and ask for it in writing and speak to the firearms manager if you can get to speak with anyone or email them. Don't forget that the FeO is civilian and not police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbust Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 FEO visit on Thursday coterm renewal, checked all the usual took paperwork away and my FAC, SGC, Euro Cert and Exp Cert all on the mat the following Wednesday. Well done Norfolk 6 days . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant.mass Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 i sent my renewal forms back to TVP back in nov and i still havent had anything back from them i have phoned them to see whats going on and they said they have a big backlog and there 3/4 months behind but the thing is my my shotgun and my fac both run out in 8 days time. they did say i will get a temporary permit dont know when that will be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedge Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 i sent my renewal forms back to TVP back in nov and i still havent had anything back from them i have phoned them to see whats going on and they said they have a big backlog and there 3/4 months behind but the thing is my my shotgun and my fac both run out in 8 days time. they did say i will get a temporary permit dont know when that will be? Straight from the horses mouth (web-site) http://www.thamesvalley.police.uk/aboutus/aboutus-depts/aboutus-depts-intel/aboutus-depts-firearmslic.htm Due to our current renewal period we are experiencing a delay in processing applications. If you have submitted a renewal application and we are unable to process it prior to the expiry date the licensing authority will issue you with a temporary permit to cover your continued use and possession. If you have not received your temporary permit a week before your expiry date please email the firearms licensing department –firearmslicensing@thamesvalley.pnn.police.uk There have been plenty of incidents of people not being given a temp section 7 permit when their licence expires during the renewal process. Each Force seems to have a difference view, although BASC are very clear on the Law. You MUST have an in-date SGC or have a temp Sect 7 permit. http://basc.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2015/01/Forms-Guide-2015.pdf Although the Sect 7 permit allows you to keep your guns and buy shotgun ammo, you may NOT posses expanding ammunition (if you have any) and this must be lodged with a RFD until you new Cert is issued. Don't accept `you're on the system so that's okay` or `if you get stopped it will show up on PNC`. If TVP are being so slow with your renewal, I wouldn't be confident that they are going to issue the Sect 7 so jump on it as soon as you're within the 7 day limit. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted April 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 I've been told by two forces that App forms will be sent out 12 weeks in advance and if they are not in 8 weeks prior then they wont issue a s7. if this is the case then the supplicant will be required to lodge your guns and other stuff ( expanding) with a rfd pending issue at your cost for however long that takes them which could cost the individual a lot of money. what with other changes eg doctors certs and anything else that the new proposed legislation where the police will decide what the law is and modify it to suit their purposes there is a hidden agenda. It's like someone is engineering either a big hike in fees or a complete re write of the rules and law. The main orgs should be aware of this and organizing a big campaign to cut it off before it grows. OR we will end up paying for it big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 I've been told by two forces that App forms will be sent out 12 weeks in advance and if they are not in 8 weeks prior then they wont issue a s7. if this is the case then the supplicant will be required to lodge your guns and other stuff ( expanding) with a rfd pending issue at your cost for however long that takes them which could cost the individual a lot of money. what with other changes eg doctors certs and anything else that the new proposed legislation where the police will decide what the law is and modify it to suit their purposes there is a hidden agenda. It's like someone is engineering either a big hike in fees or a complete re write of the rules and law. The main orgs should be aware of this and organizing a big campaign to cut it off before it grows. OR we will end up paying for it big time. My understanding is that even if you have a S7 you cannot hold expanding ammo or even bullets for the reloaders. Anyone else got this message or a correction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant.mass Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Straight from the horses mouth (web-site) http://www.thamesvalley.police.uk/aboutus/aboutus-depts/aboutus-depts-intel/aboutus-depts-firearmslic.htm Due to our current renewal period we are experiencing a delay in processing applications. If you have submitted a renewal application and we are unable to process it prior to the expiry date the licensing authority will issue you with a temporary permit to cover your continued use and possession. If you have not received your temporary permit a week before your expiry date please email the firearms licensing department –firearmslicensing@thamesvalley.pnn.police.uk There have been plenty of incidents of people not being given a temp section 7 permit when their licence expires during the renewal process. Each Force seems to have a difference view, although BASC are very clear on the Law. You MUST have an in-date SGC or have a temp Sect 7 permit. http://basc.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2015/01/Forms-Guide-2015.pdf Although the Sect 7 permit allows you to keep your guns and buy shotgun ammo, you may NOT posses expanding ammunition (if you have any) and this must be lodged with a RFD until you new Cert is issued. Don't accept `you're on the system so that's okay` or `if you get stopped it will show up on PNC`. If TVP are being so slow with your renewal, I wouldn't be confident that they are going to issue the Sect 7 so jump on it as soon as you're within the 7 day limit. Good luck. i just sent them a email see what say? and your link at the top dont work bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedge Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Straight from the horses mouth (web-site) http://www.thamesvalley.police.uk/aboutus/aboutus-depts/aboutus-depts-intel/aboutus-depts-firearmslic.htm Due to our current renewal period we are experiencing a delay in processing applications. If you have submitted a renewal application and we are unable to process it prior to the expiry date the licensing authority will issue you with a temporary permit to cover your continued use and possession. If you have not received your temporary permit a week before your expiry date please email the firearms licensing department –firearmslicensing@thamesvalley.pnn.police.uk There have been plenty of incidents of people not being given a temp section 7 permit when their licence expires during the renewal process. Each Force seems to have a difference view, although BASC are very clear on the Law. You MUST have an in-date SGC or have a temp Sect 7 permit. http://basc.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2015/01/Forms-Guide-2015.pdf Although the Sect 7 permit allows you to keep your guns and buy shotgun ammo, you may NOT posses expanding ammunition (if you have any) and this must be lodged with a RFD until you new Cert is issued. Don't accept `you're on the system so that's okay` or `if you get stopped it will show up on PNC`. If TVP are being so slow with your renewal, I wouldn't be confident that they are going to issue the Sect 7 so jump on it as soon as you're within the 7 day limit. Good luck. My understanding is that even if you have a S7 you cannot hold expanding ammo or even bullets for the reloaders. Anyone else got this message or a correction? See previous post above. i just sent them a email see what say? and your link at the top dont work bud I don't know why! Just Google "sect 7 permit thames valley" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant.mass Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 i just gave them a call again and they said a temporary permit was sent out today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belly47 Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 This may of interest to Kent based shooters http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/334211-kent-police-commisioner-elections/?p=3039035 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCobraman Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) My experience with Essex... 01/09/15 Sent forms off for FAC to include coterminous SC. 08/03/16 Received email from Essex saying file passed to FEO. 22/03/16 Called FEO for update & thanked for nudge. 31/03/16 FEO came to house & confirmed everything seemed okay & would process file 14/04/16 FAC arrived in post By my reckoning that was 33 weeks. Now waiting for permissions to be signed-off... Keep the faith guys! Edited April 17, 2016 by MrCobraman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 I have to praise W Yorks, due to work and holiday, I sent my renewal in a few days late. They changed appointments and rushed through the renewal ( FAC) so i wouldn't have to lodge my guns. 12/10 and some liquid refreshment delivered to say thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewluke Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 my renewal date was 14/3/16 sent renewal forms in on 20/11/15,on the 12/3/16 firearms dept decided they needed a doctors report(2 days before renewal date),still waiting for my ticket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordfowler Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 At last - finally it's arrived . My new SGC arrived in the post this morning. Not bad only 2 days short of 10 months for a "straightforward renewal". Plus following my complaint to the PCC regarding the poor service, I have received an email from a Detective Chief Inspector who will be looking into my complaint next week. This could be interesting. OXF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted June 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 (edited) My new SGC arrived in the post this morning. Not bad only 2 days short of 10 months for a "straightforward renewal. i have received an email from a Detective Chief Inspector who will be looking into my complaint next week. Is that like the council road hole repairs? There looking into it? Do you think that they will give you a draw in compensation for the wait and inconvenience of nearly 10 months? OXF Edited June 18, 2016 by fortune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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