discodog Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Hi. A few of the chaps on the shoot are thinking of putting some Fish in one of our ponds. I dont know anything about fishing but some of the chaps want to do some fishing in the summer, its a good size pond 100mx300m . It gets covered with weed in the summer too! Will the Fish eat the weed? What type of fish will be best? the Pond has a stream running tho it. Your thoughts please Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Rainbow Trout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Depends on what's on the pond in winter months. If its loaded with duck the the pH might be a little to high for some speices of fish. Carp are taking over the world and for good reason. Flyfishing for carp is fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Grass carp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 I think you will need some sort of licence to stock it especially as there is a stream running in . As for fish roach , Rudd and Perch should do well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordieh Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) I used to shoot a pond for mallard and teal we used to shoot about 60-70 teal a season on it then one summer I put 50 carp in and never shot another teal on it.Coincidence? possibly, there was no reason for it but that is what happened Edited January 25, 2016 by geordieh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Firstly be aware that you`ll need the appropriate permits from the EA before you can stock any fish. Details are available on their website. The only fish that really eat large amounts of pond weed are grass carp but stocking them can cause other problems. If it were me I`d go for a mixture of tench, crucian carp and rudd. The 3 species can happily exist side by side. Decent sized tench provide good sport and the other two species are ideal for a bit of casual fishing. And once they reach a decent size are challenging to catch and have a bit of fight in them. You could throw a few carp in as well but they do tend to turn ponds into muddy pools if they become too dominant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 I'm amazed there's nowt in already. As said,stick natives in roach,Rudd,bream tench and perch. I wouldn't bother with carp personally,KHV and all that nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 If the pond is well established and gets water fowl on it you might find there is fish in already. Eggs often get carried on the bodies of birds from one area to another. It might be worth fishing it first to see if anything comes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 does the feeder stream have fish in it, as your in N Wales might have brown trout, also it would be interesting to see how it progresses naturally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discodog Posted January 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Thanks for all your replys. I think someone put a few carp in it years ago, never seem anything tho, in the Winter we shoot 20 ish ducks in a season, we no longer put any ducks on it ourselves. its only a small stream feeding in and out. I will have to look in to the licence side of things by the look of it , I think its NRW in wales... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 If the pond has an outfall to a water course, the EA might not let you put fish in until you create a filter to stop any spawn getting into a water course that has different species of fish in it. Perch have very sticky spawn and are probably present already. Don't put any in until other stuff has a healthy breeding presence. Rudd give off more spawn for their weight than any other fish, so will soon increase in numbers, and will eat carp spawn as it is produced. I would avoid Rudd. Do you see any Cormorants? Tench would be sitting targets for them. If it is covered with weed in Summer, then it probably isn't very deep. Lots to think about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrix's rifle Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Thanks for all your replys. I think someone put a few carp in it years ago, never seem anything tho, in the Winter we shoot 20 ish ducks in a season, we no longer put any ducks on it ourselves. its only a small stream feeding in and out. I will have to look in to the licence side of things by the look of it , I think its NRW in wales... As it has running water through it you will be limited to what you can stock. Rainbow trout usually look after them selves depending on area how ever you might struggle to get a licence to stock them. If they were to get out you would be in the ****. I personally would stick to coarse fish as they can be found relatively cheap and cheap/easy to maintain. A couple of grass carp for any fly fishers wouldn't go a miss either! Out of interest how deep is it? And what does the bottom consist of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Do you see any Cormorants? Tench would be sitting targets for them. Cormorants are just something else you can shoot, with the correct permits of course. Not sure why you think a bottom feeding fish like the tench would be such a target for the black death though. Surface feeders are far more vulnerable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discodog Posted January 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Its about 6 to 7 feet at its deepest , mostly stone on the bottom, it was made on a boggy patch 40 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Cormorants are just something else you can shoot, with the correct permits of course. Not sure why you think a bottom feeding fish like the tench would be such a target for the black death though. Surface feeders are far more vulnerable. Tench are fairly slow, Rudd are a bit quicker. Cormorants love Eels, another bottom dweller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 You need to speak to Natural Resources Wales. They will know if the pond is registered and be able to give you a permit to stock fish and some good info on the best way to proceed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Its about 6 to 7 feet at its deepest , mostly stone on the bottom, it was made on a boggy patch 40 years ago. If there is a good flow of water through the pond and it is clear, then the sun-light can get at the bottom and weed will flourish. Normally, weed will not grow in water that deep if it is cloudy. You need to speak to Natural Resources Wales. They will know if the pond is registered and be able to give you a permit to stock fish and some good info on the best way to proceed. If it's not registered, you need to contact CEFAS in Weymouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) Tench are fairly slow, Rudd are a bit quicker. Cormorants love Eels, another bottom dweller. Hmm interesting, didn`t know they liked eels. Still I`ve never seen a tench with scars that looked like they were inflicted by a bird strike and they are my favourite target species. I must confess I missed the fact that the pond is fed by a stream. Buy a pint of maggots, give it a bash and see what turns up. Edited January 25, 2016 by Danger-Mouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 The pond where my Tench are, gets more attention from Cormorants than the other ponds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 The pond where my Tench are, gets more attention from Cormorants than the other ponds. Must be a southern thing. The cormorants up here obviously like a challenge. Seriously though, fair enough, I was just going on my own experience. Having said that the primary tench pond in my syndicate doesn`t have any fish shelters but most of the other ponds do. Also the majority of cormorant sightings near me are on the river Don which is not a great habitat for tench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 The chap that supplied my fish advised not to have Tench because I am so near the coast, and Cormorants. I think they have survived, because a few babies have been caught, so they are having some breeding success. I only caught about 20% under 2lb last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Ahh yes the coastal location might have something to do with it. I`m about as far from the sea as you can get in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discodog Posted January 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 Thanks , Great advice.... Best try and see if there is anything in there first..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 Cormorants are just something else you can shoot, with the correct permits of course. Not sure why you think a bottom feeding fish like the tench would be such a target for the black death though. Surface feeders are far more vulnerable. It is very difficult to get perms to get rid of the black death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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