fenboy Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 "........on their mobile?". Quite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJW Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 (edited) Seems to be a very common occurrence. I don't mind it at all. I shout over if a gun isn't looking and I know the people I'm shooting with which has given rise to some excellent snap shots. My biggest issue is where a keeper tells the guns to "fill their boots" or to "get stuck in to what ever is in front of them" simply to fill the bag quicker (with no regard for any gentleman's agreements already in place) encouraging people to over shoot. Edited April 8, 2016 by OJW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoot and be safe Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Seems to be a very common occurrence. I don't mind it at all. I shout over if a gun isn't looking and I know the people I'm shooting with which has given rise to some excellent snap shots. My biggest issue is where a keeper tells the guns to "fill their boots" or to "get stuck in to what ever is in front of them" simply to fill the bag quicker with no regard for any gentleman's agreements already in place, encouraging people to over shoot. +1 I have called when in the beating line on my previous syndicate following what everyone else did, probably in a attempt to add a few extra birds to the bag. On the posh days I've had away, my loader has always spotted for me and then she has showed me up by shooting better than me Can't say I have heard any calling on the large bag days, apart from rapid blasts on a whistle on a partridge day to warn of large flushes. The rest would have been gentle tapping with sticks and clapping of hands or cracks of a flag, that was until a unruly dog added to the mix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0850 Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 As others have said stick tapping, flagging and dog commands. If I'm on a peg then it's often with friends / family who on adjacent pegs may shout up, woodcock is always shouted too. I agree with others though, if a gun is day dreaming it's his or her loss! As for being on a mobile phone...disgrace! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14Supersport04 Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 (edited) I call on some drives and dont on other drives, on one drive there are duck coming from every direction as they have been pushed from the ponds and river and there are a good number of pheasant from a wood, on this drive it can be helpful for the guns as they know to face the wood rather than scaning the skies for duck but on most other i say silent. I always call when a fox goes forward as the farmer wants them all dead! Edited April 8, 2016 by 14Supersport04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 It seems just about the same with most, small shoots you give a shout, big shoots you don't. I always give a good shout when a gun is busy rolling a fag on our little syndicate bird or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Neal Posted April 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Very interesting to hear peoples' opinions and experiences, thanks a lot guys I don't think anything will be enforced either way on our shoot. As stated in more than one reply, we are sometimes scraping the bottom of the barrel for birds to make the numbers up, especially with a season like the one we've just had, so it seems a big shame that someone could miss a bird due to genuinely being distracted and looking the wrong way at the wrong time. Giving a shout can make the difference between a blank drive or not in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalahari Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Any beater who shouts on the shoot near me gets told not to come back for 2 weeks. You don't need people shouting. Must have a lot of beaters unemployed in your area. Rather think that round us any keeper who was that rude would end up with no beaters fairly soon and then where would his shoot be. David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nmb Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 We tend to shout "over" or "back" on our syndicate. Been beating on shoots where tapping a stick is the only noise allowed and others where you are encouraged to make plenty noise. I prefer these as I spend most of my time shouting on my spaniel lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Also depends on how many brushers you can afford and need on a particular drive.. If you only have 8 and need 20 then they need to be a bit vocal. Some of our drives sound like the Luton Girls Choir going through the woods. Others you don't hear a sound except sticks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Also depends on how many brushers you can afford and need on a particular drive.. If you only have 8 and need 20 then they need to be a bit vocal. Some of our drives sound like the Luton Girls Choir going through the woods. Others you don't hear a sound except sticks. Pray tell me how you know what the Luton Girls Choir sounds like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Ah, I have been about my friend. I wasn't always old. They were a famous (infamous some would say) institution in the days of yore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Hi Depends on the shoot really smaller ones with youngsters in the line always good fun for them and makes for a fun day with a smaller bag nothing like a bunch of kids cheering a good bird that beat the guns 😊 Personally I think tapping is all that's needed with a few good flagers Especially if you're paying a lot of money for the day Worst is the gun on the next peg calling birds that you've seen and left because there unsafe or not sporting Just my thoughts All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBW Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 I don't mind it if its a shout of 'over' or 'back' if the gun is in a particularly tight spot and won't be able to see birds as easily, however what does grind my gears is when a bird gets up and the whole line are screaming 'over' like a bunch of muppets two small shoots I go to do this.... Some of the lads who are the worst offenders can be heard on the next door shoot screaming your lungs out to me is terrible, I usually ask beaters on my shoot to only call for a back gun or if a fox gets up, I always wonder what passing walkers and the like think when they see a nice smart line of guns having a good time at some sporting birds whilst the beaters are screaming themselves hoarse at the slightest thing that moves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Jim some of the guns need all the help they can get, half the guns can't remember which way the birds will be coming from. Cheers john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Heron Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 I have known both silence and shouting I much prefer silence except in the case of woodcock when as mentioned before safety goes out the window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Neal Posted April 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 Jim some of the guns need all the help they can get, half the guns can't remember which way the birds will be coming from. Cheers john Very true John! All good fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Must admit i couldnae care less, it would take more than someone shouting to spoil a days shooting, not that i stand very often. It depends on shoot and wot i'm doing beating or picking up, normally i'd shout the very early ones until drive is going well or shout any sneaking out side by either left/right or shouting peg numbers usually 1 or 8/9 or on my small shoot the guns names. 1 drive i pick up on if i'm in my usual place i usually warn 1 peg as it is a bad place to spot them but from my picking up spot can see them leave the flushing point but t depends how the gun is getting on mibee leave a few unwarned and see if he picks up on them. But i'm not screaming it at top of my lungs When been loading on the grouse a lot of the better more experienced shots will whistle warnings to there neighbours if they spot birds coming esp early in the drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 It is a bit disconcerting when a bird gets up from some cover and heads towards a line and all the guns start yelling, ******* and blinding and then all proceed to attempt to shot it, even if it is going over a gun four or five guns down the line and little much above head height !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Been there, but only once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 It can help to wind up a gun who is shooting badly and cant get out of the shooting. A back if you are a back gun can be handy as you may be walking but a forward is not normally needed, the noise can also disturb other birds on the point of flushing so you can get a dozen birds all going over one peg together. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Never over my peg! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve w Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 I hate it when the beaters call your name ,but forward or back gun is ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-dot Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 No need for a beater to call the shots. They are there to flush birds not wake up dozy guns. If i had a quid for every bird i've shot when a gun has been dreaming i would be driving a Rolls Royce by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 No need for a beater to call the shots. They are there to flush birds not wake up dozy guns. If i had a quid for every bird i've shot when a gun has been dreaming i would be driving a Rolls Royce by now. +1 but not the Rolls Royce. Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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