TONY R Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 I have not seen any of this powder around for a few years now, Is it still available? And if so where from please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 If it is the same B&P from Italy who make cartridges, then you are unlikely to be able to obtain their products in the UK. This is because they supply Gamebore with a lot of their components and will not sell direct into the UK as they consider a conflict of interest could arise. I use their carts for clay shooting and have to buy them in France, as you can't get them here any longer. Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted June 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 If it is the same B&P from Italy who make cartridges, then you are unlikely to be able to obtain their products in the UK. This is because they supply Gamebore with a lot of their components and will not sell direct into the UK as they consider a conflict of interest could arise. I use their carts for clay shooting and have to buy them in France, as you can't get them here any longer. Cat. Can you PM me the supplier in France or could you tag some M92s on to a ammo order perhaps. At a fee of course.? I am ****** of with Gamebore taking this attitude i will never buy another cartridge of theirs . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) Gent's big difference bringing back cartridges across the channel as they are 1.4s not a single ferry operator or the tunnel will allow any powder which is 1.3c. Only option is commercial transport which is mega pounds to do. What we need is a powder supplier who is independent of the cartridge manufactures and able to buy and sell all the leading makes Like they have in Germany for instance but sadly will never happen. It's not just gamebore with that attitude, they want to sell cartridges not components hell that may encourage you to reload that will never do. Rip of Britain etc. Nice powder B&P I can remember the good days when we got it via the cut-offs gamebore used to sell. Edited June 14, 2016 by rbrowning2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Yes, rbrowning2 has confirmed what I would have said, transporting raw powder is a real no-no, not only that, I don't believe the Clay grounds that I frequent in France would even sell it, I believe home loads are banned in competition shooting, (just like the UK, thank goodness), so I doubt whether it would be readily obtainable..? Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Shooter Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Picking up from rbrowning2 -who's absolutely right on his statement- i had this crazy idea: maybe George (proper cartridges) could put an order in if we are to split a drum or so of M92S I wouldn't know how much the combined cost would be (powder + shipping) but could be an idea? I'll be up for sharing if there is any interest and i can speak to George to see if he's up for it. Alternatively, i think B&P have an official dealer here in UK, so, would probably be worth contacting him to check? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Alternatively, i think B&P have an official dealer here in UK, so, would probably be worth contacting him to check? I don't think that's the case any longer, Derek Burnett in Ireland deals in B&P shells, but nobody in the UK, as far as I am aware..? Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted June 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Its a neat idea, but its all too complicated to bother for a few loads. The whole idea was to try and find a practical available powder to help prolong my Alliant powder stocks, until hopefully some more shows up. I keep picking up the odd 1lb of Steel here and there but its thin on the ground. M92S is ok for a couple of duck loads and it used to be cheaper than Vitavouri which seems to be about the best performing steel shot powder readily available here at the moment, but its not as cheap as i like it. Vectan A0 is ok on price but i dont think it will be too usefull in a steel load. anyone ever loaded A) in steel if so what sort of vellocities were you getting and what shot weights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK fowler Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Its a neat idea, but its all too complicated to bother for a few loads. The whole idea was to try and find a practical available powder to help prolong my Alliant powder stocks, until hopefully some more shows up. I keep picking up the odd 1lb of Steel here and there but its thin on the ground. M92S is ok for a couple of duck loads and it used to be cheaper than Vitavouri which seems to be about the best performing steel shot powder readily available here at the moment, but its not as cheap as i like it. Vectan A0 is ok on price but i dont think it will be too usefull in a steel load. anyone ever loaded A) in steel if so what sort of vellocities were you getting and what shot weights. I am getting 1440 @2.5 mtrs - 1000 bar with 34grams of shot 3" crimp finished 12g its hot but a good field load Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler23 Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) Have you tried that ssb150 tony r? I use that for my duck loads, obviously I don't have anything to compare it to experience wise, Edited June 16, 2016 by Smiler23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted June 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) In m92s i had a little high speed 7 eighths steel load big shot which killed geese, i used this load in a Remington 1100 2 3,4 inch i had when steel first came in and ammo and components were rare, bassicaly made it up out of more or less dessperation but it worked fantastic. I was thinking of Dropping the Big duplexed shot load and just running duck shot say 3s or 4s in it, cheap low recoil and super fast killer. As it is i may well end up loading a 32 gram load with something like A0 perhaps. I did try SSB150 was given a half pound by a mate from south yorkshire who gave up with it in his ten. I burned off the SSB150 trying to make it work which it did but it was not fantastic in the ten. Anybody got any around 1 oz fast steel loads using this SSB150.? And while i am on with this anyone any AO steel loads in the 1380 1420fps areas about 30 32 gram. Edited June 17, 2016 by TONY R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Shooter Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 given the quality of the M92S and the range of reloading, i still think it'll be a good option to split a drum if we can get it into the country.... anyway, i was thinking ... what would happen to all the components if UK manages to get out of EU?... worth stocking up as i can see prices going up ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted June 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) Leaving the EU wont make any difference whatsoever. Just got offered 10lbs of Blue dot this morning from Preston a lad in our club is packing in reloading just sold his eight bore last night, im picking it up tomorrow think im sorted now For a few years now this and a little vitavouri i still have will help spin out my A steel and A381 nicely until this shortage sorts its self out. Edited June 17, 2016 by TONY R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TONY R Posted June 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Loading this it worked back in 2007 pretty good for me. Gordon 70MM Federal 209A Blue Dot / 3$ gr. LBC 43 20ga corks 440 grain steel 2s or 3s compress to 90lbs 1,550 fps@ 9 ft 11.000 psi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenergp Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Picking up from rbrowning2 -who's absolutely right on his statement- i had this crazy idea: maybe George (proper cartridges) could put an order in if we are to split a drum or so of M92S I wouldn't know how much the combined cost would be (powder + shipping) but could be an idea? I'll be up for sharing if there is any interest and i can speak to George to see if he's up for it. Alternatively, i think B&P have an official dealer here in UK, so, would probably be worth contacting him to check? I would take some if George would order some in, i dont think it would be any conflict with his main business as i dont think he does any steel loads and it would just be wildfowlers that would take the powder from him........heres hoping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted June 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 I would take some if George would order some in, i dont think it would be any conflict with his main business as i dont think he does any steel loads and it would just be wildfowlers that would take the powder from him........heres hoping Duno George, but i kind of got the feeling from a couple of posts he made on here he did not want to sell powder for reloading, I made the mistake of thinking he was offering vectan for reloading and he pointed out this was not the case. Could have got it wrong but thats how i took it to read, TRy him i would have a few BS even though im sorted out now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenergp Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 On his webpage he has prices for wads,powder, shot and other reloading items, so hopefully he might do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted June 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 On his webpage he has prices for wads,powder, shot and other reloading items, so hopefully he might do it. Oh Ok let us know if and when its happening then please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Shooter Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Spoke to the lad few time for components only He tried to sell some shells but explained i do it more for the pleasure of reloading and experimenting that actual need (my very limited land doesn't offer much in terms of pigeons or wildfowl ...just enough for me to have some sport here and there) so, he said if i had an order for components to give him a buzz. I was waiting for the Scottish game fair to get something delivered and leave him with some shell to proof; but can speak to him now and see what he thinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanm Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 If something is sorted with a barrel of m92s and it needs a few folk to justify it then I'd glady chip in ,best powder I've used for light steel loads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 I'd be interested too .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenergp Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 I sent George at Proper Cartridges an email asking if he would be willing to get some M92S powder and sell it on, i also let him know about this topic. So with a bit of luck we might get some in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted June 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Thats good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Shooter Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 I texted him last week to ask if he was coming up to Scone for the game fair as i had some load to test ... no answer. Unfortunately i've been abroad past 10 days and never managed to call him. I am back now (literally) and will give him a buzz this afty (after i caught up with jet lag ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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